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  • #51
    Originally posted by Dat View Post
    You are right we cannot rewrite history, which is why we really can't change the fact that Floyd said that “I’m not going to let boxing retire me, I will retire from boxing”, when he was asked by Larry Merchant on HBO (after the Hatton fight) if he will fight Cotto.
    Mayweather fought Hatton in December of 2007.....

    in February 2008 Cotto fought Alfonso Gomez ...in July of 2008 Cotto lost to Antonio Margarito.

    Please tell me how Mayweather retired to "duck" Cotto?

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    • #52
      mayweather never ducked cotto. if you think he did you either dont know recent history, you dont understand what ducking someone really is or you are just a hater looking for any excuse to hate.

      floyd wanted him badly at 140 but arum killed the fight, thats a fact. pre DLH mayweather was very reasonable in negotiations and offered a great deal to fight cotto but arum made it clear he would not under any circumstances let cotto share a ring with floyd.

      after floyd beat DLH and there was more money in the fight arum mightve changed his mind, we cant know for sure but its possible. even if we assume he did you cant say floyd ducked cotto to fight hatton. yes, today we know cotto is a tougher fight but back then most ppl didnt.

      hattons accomplishments were nearly identical to cottos, they both won titles at 140 and 147. hatton upping cotto one by being a lineal champ at 140. cotto was ahead of hatton on the p4p list though, but only by one spot. still that evens it out. what seperates them is hatton had a much bigger fanbase, a fanbase that would travel to vegas to watch the fight. in other words there was alot more money in that fight than a cotto fight, and hatton had dissrespected floyd in public on top of that.

      so to fight hatton was by no means ducking cotto. ofcourse haters twist it how they want. floyd says he'll fight hatton bcuz hes english, he has more passionate fans who are willing to travel unlike the majority of cottos fans in puerto rico. then retaards twist his words and go "puerto rico is too far away", "he wont fight miguel bcuz hes puerto rican, what a lame excuse" like thats all he said.

      again, what he said is if he fought hatton there would be more ppl flying in from england than there would be ricans flying in from PR if he fought cotto. which ofcourse equals more money. thats all he said and its true, its a valid point.

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      • #53
        Floyd Mayweather Jr ducking Cotto and Margarito is false. Floyd wanted De La Hoya in order to fight Margarito and Cotto BUT Arum said NO because he didn't want to work with Oscar pretty much how he doesn't want to work with others out side of Top Rank now. He said Floyd couldn't get 20MIL for an Oscar fight and that's why Floyd bought out of his contract and the Oscar fight was made. Floyd ducking Margarito and Cotto is B.S. Also, Cotto never pushed for the fight but always left it up to his promoter. Floyd was the champ and man to beat. If Cotto really wanted it he would have told Arum to make it happen. And don't give me the excuse that Cotto wasn't the type to call fighters out. If Cotto wasn't willing to call Floyd out then how could Floyd have been ducking him?


        Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

        Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

        "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."


        http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-01-2012, 06:05 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Floyd Mayweather Jr ducking Cotto and Margarito is false. Floyd wanted De La Hoya in order to fight Margarito and Cotto BUT Arum said NO because he didn't want to work with Oscar pretty much how he doesn't want to work with others out side of Top Rank now. He said Floyd couldn't get 20MIL for an Oscar fight and that's why Floyd bought out of his contract and the Oscar fight was made. Floyd ducking Margarito and Cotto is B.S. Also, Cotto never pushed for the fight but always left it up to his promoter. Floyd was the champ and man to beat. If Cotto really wanted it he would have told Arum to make it happen. And don't give me the excuse that Cotto wasn't the type to call fighters out. If Cotto wasn't willing to call Floyd out then how could Floyd have been ducking him?
          Grus....they don't get it



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          • #55
            He hasn't worked with Top Rank since he left. There's your answer.

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            • #56
              No.

              Cotto showed absolutely no interest in fighting Mayweather. He say's that himself.

              The only fighter Mayweather avoided in recent years was Margarito.

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              • #57
                No matter your opinion on whether you feel PBF ducked Cotto or not just tell the whole story if you trying to provide proof of why you feel that way and don't just tell the part that makes you think you right.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  No.

                  Cotto showed absolutely no interest in fighting Mayweather. He say's that himself.

                  The only fighter Mayweather avoided in recent years was Margarito.
                  How did he duck Margarito when Floyd was trying to secure a fight with Oscar De La Hoya? Then Floyd left Arum to get the Oscar fight. Didn't you read my post above? the Floyd ducked Margarito/Cotto is a myth. I'm saying this as a person that followed everything that went down at that time. Also, when Margarito stepped to Floyd when Floyd was looking for Oscar. Floyd told Margarito to keep winning and it would be greater later. What happened next? He lost to Paul Williams who Margarito himself was trying to duck and not fight to get an earlier shot at Cotto and didn't want to get stripped of his title by avoiding Williams who was his mandatory.
                  Floyd called out all the best fighters throughout his career. Dude chased Oscar and Mosley up from 140.
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-01-2012, 10:37 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Gold Mamba View Post
                    Mayweather fought Hatton in December of 2007.....

                    in February 2008 Cotto fought Alfonso Gomez ...in July of 2008 Cotto lost to Antonio Margarito.

                    Please tell me how Mayweather retired to "duck" Cotto?
                    After the hatton fight... he clearly ducked an undefeated Cotto. PROOF watch 7:15 mark

                    Last edited by PiXelElite; 03-01-2012, 10:47 AM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      How did he duck Margarito when Floyd was trying to secure a fight with Oscar De La Hoya? Then Floyd left Arum to get the Oscar fight. Didn't you read my post above? the Floyd ducked Margarito/Cotto is a myth. I'm saying this as a person that followed everything that went down at that time. Also, when Margarito stepped to Floyd when Floyd was looking for Oscar. Floyd told Margarito to keep winning and it would be greater later. What happened next? He lost to Paul Williams who Margarito himself was trying to duck and not fight to get an earlier shot at Cotto and didn't want to get to stripped of his title by avoiding Williams who was his mandatory.
                      Floyd called out all the best fighters throughout his career. Dude chased Oscar and Mosley up from 140.
                      I'm saying this as a person that followed everything that went down at that time;

                      Mayweather was offered Margarito as early as when he fought Zab Judah.

                      He could have easily fought Margarito instead of both Judah and Baldomir, who, face it, would have been a better win for him than those two.

                      I understand the logic in fighting Judah, who he had a verbal agreement with a year prior, and he honoured that. I understand that.

                      I also understand the logic on why he then chose to fight Baldomir over Margarito, who, was the Lineal Champion at the time.

                      But, at the same time, the fact is Margarito could have been chosen and was available as an opponent for both of those fights. And, Margarito would have been a better win, and tougher opponent and a bigger risk than both of those fights.

                      But, he chose Judah and then Baldomir instead.

                      Like I said, do I blame him? Not really. He didn't want to jeopardize what he worked so hard for; the Oscar fight.

                      But the fact is, he chose to fight those fighters when Margarito, a tougher, bigger risk and more legit fighter was available.

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