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  • LeG00N
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    #71
    inb4 16 punch combo


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    • Toyman
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      #72
      i agree, marquez needs to stop piggybacking on the 3 rounds he won against pac



      if i was marquez, id actually do anything to have people forget about this , because the ENTIRE world is able to see the following photos/ video









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      • yuppie
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        #73
        Originally posted by I'm so sorry
        Oh and of course there's this

        By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to
        say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com

        Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113

        SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113

        Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !!

        Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !!


        Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne

        Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop

        OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya

        Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell

        ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH

        Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham

        Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

        Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin

        Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward

        Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

        Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"

        Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

        Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."

        Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY

        Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
        #LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas

        Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull

        Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan

        Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine

        Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100

        Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp

        Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456

        Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProv


        Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won!

        Marvin Hagler said Marquez won!

        Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won!

        Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won!

        Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won

        Andre Direll said Marquez won!

        Zab Judah said Marquez won!

        Steve Cunningham said Marquez won!

        Anthony Direll said Marquez won!

        Matthew Macklin said Marquez won!

        Andre Ward said Marquez won!

        Terry Norris said Marquez won!

        Andre Berto said Marquez won!

        Omar Henry said Marquez won!

        Chris Arreola said Marquez won!

        Rashad Holloway said Marquez won!

        Fernando Vargas said Marquez won!

        Juan Diaz said Marquez won!

        Amir Khan said Marquez won!

        Anthony Mundine said Marquez won!

        Erik Morales said Marquez won!

        Jean Pascal said Marquez won!


        Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won!

        Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won!

        Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won!

        Jorge Linares said Marquez won!

        Peter Manfredo said Marquez won!

        Michael Marley said Marquez won!

        Darren Barker said Marquez won!

        Marcos Maidana said Marquez won!

        Raul Martinez said Marquez won!

        J'Leon Love said Marquez won!

        Lou DiBella said Marquez won!

        Josesito Lopez said Marquez won!

        Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won!

        Sergio Martinez said Marquez won!


        Yeah but like..did any of those people watch the fight through a magnifying glass and on ultra high def slow mo whilst wearing their Pacquiao cap, Pacquiao t-shirt, Pacquiao trousers, Pacquiao socks, Pacquiao shoes, and Pacquiao scarf on whilst holding on to their Pacquiao doll sitting in their living room with Pacquiao posters up everywhere..?
        I think you would see the fight in a different light if you did.

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        • Chuckguy
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          #74
          Man u are a fool! Based on your logic we should judge a winner based on how they look like at the post fight news conference? So by your logic Nonitos last fight he really lost because his face was all scratched and swollen and the other guy was clean. Forget the fact that it was a near shut out for Nonito because by your logic it's about how the fighter looks after the fight. Not he fact thy PAC was lost and had no answers for dinamita! Not the fact
          That PAC never showed the confidence that he did in the previous two matches with JMM.


          Originally posted by Toyman
          i agree, marquez needs to stop piggybacking on the 3 rounds he won against pac



          if i was marquez, id actually do anything to have people forget about this , because the ENTIRE world is able to see the following photos/ video









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          • DeadLikeMe
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            #75
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            Man u are a fool! Based on your logic we should judge a winner based on how they look like at the post fight news conference? So by your logic Nonitos last fight he really lost because his face was all scratched and swollen and the other guy was clean. Forget the fact that it was a near shut out for Nonito because by your logic it's about how the fighter looks after the fight. Not he fact thy PAC was lost and had no answers for dinamita! Not the fact
            That PAC never showed the confidence that he did in the previous two matches with JMM.
            Don't even bother responding to that ******...that is the only thing he has posted for months now.

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            • savorduhflavor
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              #76
              Being the first person to stop a still VERY capable Casamayor, KO'ing a near top 10 P4P ranked Juan Diaz, and stopping a still live Katsidis.....

              Marquez has a very solid resume over the past 4 years alone, nevermind his earlier days.

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              • Pacquiao'd
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                #77
                Thread got bodied

                ]
                Originally posted by I'm so sorry
                Oh and of course there's this

                By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to
                say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com

                Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113

                SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113

                Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !!

                Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !!


                Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne

                Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop

                OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya

                Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell

                ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH

                Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham

                Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

                Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin

                Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward

                Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

                Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"

                Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

                Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."

                Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY

                Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
                #LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas

                Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull

                Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan

                Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine

                Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100

                Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp

                Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456

                Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProv


                Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won!

                Marvin Hagler said Marquez won!

                Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won!

                Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won!

                Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won

                Andre Direll said Marquez won!

                Zab Judah said Marquez won!

                Steve Cunningham said Marquez won!

                Anthony Direll said Marquez won!

                Matthew Macklin said Marquez won!

                Andre Ward said Marquez won!

                Terry Norris said Marquez won!

                Andre Berto said Marquez won!

                Omar Henry said Marquez won!

                Chris Arreola said Marquez won!

                Rashad Holloway said Marquez won!

                Fernando Vargas said Marquez won!

                Juan Diaz said Marquez won!

                Amir Khan said Marquez won!

                Anthony Mundine said Marquez won!

                Erik Morales said Marquez won!

                Jean Pascal said Marquez won!


                Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won!

                Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won!

                Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won!

                Jorge Linares said Marquez won!

                Peter Manfredo said Marquez won!

                Michael Marley said Marquez won!

                Darren Barker said Marquez won!

                Marcos Maidana said Marquez won!

                Raul Martinez said Marquez won!

                J'Leon Love said Marquez won!

                Lou DiBella said Marquez won!

                Josesito Lopez said Marquez won!

                Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won!

                Sergio Martinez said Marquez won!

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                • bigsmoothh
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by yuppie
                  Yeah but like..did any of those people watch the fight through a magnifying glass and on ultra high def slow mo whilst wearing their Pacquiao cap, Pacquiao t-shirt, Pacquiao trousers, Pacquiao socks, Pacquiao shoes, and Pacquiao scarf on whilst holding on to their Pacquiao doll sitting in their living room with Pacquiao posters up everywhere..?
                  I think you would see the fight in a different light if you did.

                  haha excellent, my friend is filipino and they watch all the pac fights during christmas, new years, easter, birthdays its crazy man, imagine if the whole nation puts THAT much attention in ONE fighter what does that tell you? exactly.......

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by punchville
                    the john fight was no robbery...the norwood fight was imo...but thast not the topic of this thread...how is marquez an atg again?...
                    Have you watched the Marquez-John fight ever??? JMM won that fight, I don't care what anyone says. Chris John is a really good fighter, but there's a reason he only fights in Indonesia and only fights someone like Rocky Juarez in the USA. If Marquez-John happened in Vegas, Marquez would have won a decision no doubt. John didn't hardly land s**t that whole fight, was backing up and not hitting back 75% of the time, Marquez was pressing the action. If Marquez was pressing the action and John was landing on him, than it's non-effective agression, but John was doing hardly anything that entire fight. The fact that John was scored the winner by as wide of a UD as he was is laughable, let alone the fact that he was declared the winner. And the low blows weren't even bad, certainly not bad enough to warrant multiple point deductions. It was like Khan being deducted twice for pushing, very questionable and didn't really warrant it.

                    Norwood was a clear as day robbery, and I think Pac-JMM II was as well. I scored Pac-JMM II 115-112 Marquez. I thought Marquez won 8 rounds to 4, but was knocked down once obviously. It was the clearest of all 3 of the fights to me. I thought Pac won the first fight by a point, it was close. Marquez won more rounds, but the 3 knockdowns won the fight for Pac to me. The 3rd fight was close, and I originally scored it a draw. Having watched it a few more times, it could have gone either way to me.

                    JMM wins: Peden, Medina, Gainer, Salido, Polo, Barrera, Juarez, Casamayor, Diaz, and Katsidis.

                    At first glance of Marquez' wins, his resume seems to be a bit weak. Barrera was past his prime by the time he fought Marquez and the 2nd Pac fight in 07'. His best win aside form that is probably a past prime-still good Casamayor or Orlando Salido, which isn't ATG status. But, given the fact that he should without a doubt have wins over Norwood, Pacquiao, and John as well, those are all good wins. Norwood would have been a really good win at that time, John would be a very very good win, and Pacquiao would be an ATG win. To me, JMM is an ATG still. He was robbed probably more so than other fight in his era, even more than Winky Wright.

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                    • Toyman
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by 4CornersKid

                      Norwood was a clear as day robbery, and I think Pac-JMM II was as well. I scored Pac-JMM II 115-112 Marquez. I thought Marquez won 8 rounds to 4, but was knocked down once obviously. It was the clearest of all 3 of the fights to me. I thought Pac won the first fight by a point, it was close. Marquez won more rounds, but the 3 knockdowns won the fight for Pac to me. The 3rd fight was close, and I originally scored it a draw. Having watched it a few more times, it could have gone either way to me.
                      And which 8 rounds were those?

                      i clearly see pac winning

                      3,4,7,9,10,11

                      in addition to 1 and 12.

                      which leads to a score of 116-111 pac.

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