message to marquez: stop piggybacking on that arguable loss/win to pac..

[ADP02]

Care to share their names with legit sources?

Oh and don't forget all of the Pinoys apologizing to Mexicans at the MGM Grand after the fight for the robbery.

Legit names? Judge #1, Judge #2 and Judge #3 .....

plus my own eyes .... while just an opinion, they told me that it was a close fight where Marquez played it too safe .... he had to remember that he was trying to take away Manny, the champ's belt ....

[LeG00N]

I red K'd you....

[4Corners]

While I agree that Marquez shouldn't be fighting Cuenca, which is pointless, he's still an ATG fighter. He didn't really lose the 2nd and 3rd Pacquiao fights, the John fight, or the Norwood fight. One could argue that the only fight he lost aside from the DQ he got in his first bout ever was to Mayweather. Yes, JMM's resume isn't that great TECHNICALLY speaking. But, he should have wins of Manny Pacquiao, Chris John, and Freddie Norwood, which would have greatly enhanced his resume BIG TIME. I consider JMM an ATG.

He should have just waited for the Morales-Garcia winner and fought them in July. Than, if he were to win that fight, he'd have another Pacquiao bout there or the Rios-Gamboa winner there as well for the fall.

By the way, I scored Pac-JMM I for Manny, Pac-JMM II for Marquez (the clearest of them all really), and Pac-JMM III a draw. After rewatching Pac-JMM, it could have gone either way, as could the first bout really. The 2nd fight though, I thought Marquez clearly won that one.

[Junior M Weight]

Jake Donavan boxingscene.com 115-113 pacquiao
Cliff Rold boxingscene.com 115-113 pacquiao
Graham Houston Fight News.com -Pacquiao
Stephen Edaward boxing talk.com- 116-112 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer boxing talk.com- 115-113 Pacquiao
Greg Leon Boxing Talk.com - 115-114 Pacquiao
Doveed Linder Boxing talk.com-114-114 Draw
Mike Slone, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
Robert Guerrero: Marquez
Steve Cunningham: Marquez
Marvin Hagler: Marquez
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
Graham Shaw, sportinglife.com: 116-113 Marquez
Recah Trinidad, Inquirer.net: Marquez
Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
Jeff Powell, Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
Larry Merchant, HBO: Draw
Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-114 Draw
Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
john Whisler, San Antonio Express: Draw or Pacquiao
Hamlet Kim, Christian Post: Draw or Pacquiao
Adam Pollack, The Cyber Boxing Zone: Draw or Pacquiao
Chris Broussard, ESPN: Draw or Marquez
Justin Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
Bam on Boxing, ************.com: 114-114 Draw
Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun: Draw
Doveed Linder, **********.com: 114-114 Draw
Bob Papa, HBO: Draw
Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
Scoop Malinowski, *************: Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jim Lampley, HBO: Pacquiao
Randy Gordon, former Chairman, New York State Athletic Commission; former editor, Ring Magazine: Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jose Castillo, Fight Manager: Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com: Pacquiao
Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Tony Paige, WFAN/CBS New York: Pacquiao
Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Patrick L. Stumberg, MMAMania.com/SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Dan Hill, Wall Street Journal: Pacquiao
Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Sam Gerasi, DogHouseBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Don Donatello, NowBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: Pacquiao
Robert Smith, General Secretary, British Boxing Board of Control: Pacquiao
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Who the **** are these bums? Lmao, bunch of no names, and half of them are for a draw or marquez anyway Buahaha

The Pinoys all got together and scrounged all corners of the earth for this list. A few of the names are made up. Lol

[punchville]

While I agree that Marquez shouldn't be fighting Cuenca, which is pointless, he's still an ATG fighter. He didn't really lose the 2nd and 3rd Pacquiao fights, the John fight, or the Norwood fight. One could argue that the only fight he lost aside from the DQ he got in his first bout ever was to Mayweather. Yes, JMM's resume isn't that great TECHNICALLY speaking. But, he should have wins of Manny Pacquiao, Chris John, and Freddie Norwood, which would have greatly enhanced his resume BIG TIME. I consider JMM an ATG.

He should have just waited for the Morales-Garcia winner and fought them in July. Than, if he were to win that fight, he'd have another Pacquiao bout there or the Rios-Gamboa winner there as well for the fall.

By the way, I scored Pac-JMM I for Manny, Pac-JMM II for Marquez (the clearest of them all really), and Pac-JMM III a draw. After rewatching Pac-JMM, it could have gone either way, as could the first bout really. The 2nd fight though, I thought Marquez clearly won that one.

the john fight was no robbery...the norwood fight was imo...but thast not the topic of this thread...how is marquez an atg again?...

[Chuckguy]

LOL, really?...you seriously arguing pac is not an atg now?...really?..if you were a boxing fan, you would know what pac has done...but since you need someone to explain that, i suggest to go and pick a diffrent sport...

PAC an ATg why cause he cherry picked all his opponents going up in
Weight never fought a prime top tier fighter since going up
In weight

Tell me one guy since morales that was prime and at the topof
His game when PAC fought him? Go
Ahead I'll wait

[punchville]

PAC an ATg why cause he cherry picked all his opponents going up in
Weight never fought a prime top tier fighter since going up
In weight

Tell me one guy since morales that was prime and at the topof
His game when PAC fought him? Go
Ahead I'll wait

why do you need a timeline mofo...when you talk about atg , you talk about his whole carrreer...

the only reason why marquez is relevant is coz of his fights with pacquaio...he is pac's kenny norton...

[LeG00N]

why do you need a timeline mofo...when you talk about atg , you talk about his whole carrreer...

the only reason why marquez is relevant is coz of his fights with pacquaio...he is pac's kenny norton...

being a 3 division champ and knocking out guys 10 years younger when he's almost 40 and still being a P4P fighter has nothing to do with it right?

why don't you post with your real account?

[ChiRock773]

meaning : stop fighting stiffs...step your game up...

marquez atg?...lol, get the **** out of here with that BS...

at least Marquez has the bhalls to fight mayweather...not like phussy ass steroid taking, dog eating, scared of needles paquioa....makes every one fight while they're dehydrated.....get the phuck outt here.....

[thuggery]

freddie said pac won, no surprise....lederman said floyd lost to jlc and he aint got no reason to favor floyd...so what?


stick with the topic *****...

btw, can any of the mayweathers defend english?...

Nope, watch On Freddie Roach ep 6. Round 10-12. Roach was trembling because he knew Pac was losing. Even Amir Khan said Pac lost.

I'm sure they could, at least better than you could. Your attempt at the English language is just outright embarrassing.