message to marquez: stop piggybacking on that arguable loss/win to pac..

[4Corners]

And which 8 rounds were those?

i clearly see pac winning

3,4,7,9,10,11

in addition to 1 and 12.

which leads to a score of 116-111 pac.

hahahahaha You thought Pac-JMM II was 8 rounds to 4 for Manny??? My god........

Round 1: Manny. 10-9 Pac.
Round 2: JMM. 19-19 even.
Round 3: Manny. 29-27 Pac.
Round 4: Manny. 39-36 Pac.
Round 5: JMM. 48-46 Pac.
Round 6: JMM. 57-56 Pac.
Round 7: JMM. 66-66 Even.
Round 8: JMM. 76-75 Marquez.
Round 9: Manny. 85-85 even.
Round 10: JMM. 95-94 Marquez.
Round 11: JMM. 105-103 Marquez.
Round 12: JMM. 115-112 Marquez.

Manny clearly won the 1st, 3rd, and 4th to me. He out landed JMM clearly those rounds. Marquez clearly won the 2nd, 5th, 7th, 8th, and the 12th. He out landed Manny clearly in power shots those rounds, those were clear JMM rounds. The 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th were close rounds to me. I thought Manny did a little more damage than Marquez in the 9th and seemed to land the cleaner punches, so I gave that round to him. The 6th, 10th, and 11th were really close, but Marquez seemed to control the tempo of those rounds. Manny was moving forward but still seemed to be getting tagged at will those rounds by Marquez.

115-112 Marquez. I could see scoring one or two of the close rounds I gave to JMM as even rounds though, but you could also score the round 9 even as well, which I gave to Manny.

[thuggery]

As widely stated after the fight, it was clearly 8-4 Marquez

[yuppie]

haha excellent, my friend is filipino and they watch all the pac fights during christmas, new years, easter, birthdays its crazy man, imagine if the whole nation puts THAT much attention in ONE fighter what does that tell you? exactly.......

If Pacquiao died it would be like in North Korea when Kim Jong Il died, there would be millions of filipino's crying in the street and the shrill noise of weeping would fill the air.

[El.Naranjito707]

Pac fans will always see him winning even if he clearly is losing. Do they need to keep making threads such as this one? It is ridiculous. Get off his nuts. He does not give 2 ****s about you...just your money.

[eklok]

this butthurt marquez fans still at it ?

pac won , let it go , stop hurting yourself

[Toyman]

hahahahaha You thought Pac-JMM II was 8 rounds to 4 for Manny??? My god........

Round 1: Manny. 10-9 Pac.
Round 2: JMM. 19-19 even.
Round 3: Manny. 29-27 Pac.
Round 4: Manny. 39-36 Pac.
Round 5: JMM. 48-46 Pac.
Round 6: JMM. 57-56 Pac.
Round 7: JMM. 66-66 Even.
Round 8: JMM. 76-75 Marquez.
Round 9: Manny. 85-85 even.
Round 10: JMM. 95-94 Marquez.
Round 11: JMM. 105-103 Marquez.
Round 12: JMM. 115-112 Marquez.

Manny clearly won the 1st, 3rd, and 4th to me. He out landed JMM clearly those rounds. Marquez clearly won the 2nd, 5th, 7th, 8th, and the 12th. He out landed Manny clearly in power shots those rounds, those were clear JMM rounds. The 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th were close rounds to me. I thought Manny did a little more damage than Marquez in the 9th and seemed to land the cleaner punches, so I gave that round to him. The 6th, 10th, and 11th were really close, but Marquez seemed to control the tempo of those rounds. Manny was moving forward but still seemed to be getting tagged at will those rounds by Marquez.

115-112 Marquez. I could see scoring one or two of the close rounds I gave to JMM as even rounds though, but you could also score the round 9 even as well, which I gave to Manny.

7,10 ,11 for marquez?


those 3 were all clearly pacquiao, especially round 10...

[punchville]

Have you watched the Marquez-John fight ever??? JMM won that fight, I don't care what anyone says. Chris John is a really good fighter, but there's a reason he only fights in Indonesia and only fights someone like Rocky Juarez in the USA. If Marquez-John happened in Vegas, Marquez would have won a decision no doubt. John didn't hardly land s**t that whole fight, was backing up and not hitting back 75% of the time, Marquez was pressing the action. If Marquez was pressing the action and John was landing on him, than it's non-effective agression, but John was doing hardly anything that entire fight. The fact that John was scored the winner by as wide of a UD as he was is laughable, let alone the fact that he was declared the winner. And the low blows weren't even bad, certainly not bad enough to warrant multiple point deductions. It was like Khan being deducted twice for pushing, very questionable and didn't really warrant it.

Norwood was a clear as day robbery, and I think Pac-JMM II was as well. I scored Pac-JMM II 115-112 Marquez. I thought Marquez won 8 rounds to 4, but was knocked down once obviously. It was the clearest of all 3 of the fights to me. I thought Pac won the first fight by a point, it was close. Marquez won more rounds, but the 3 knockdowns won the fight for Pac to me. The 3rd fight was close, and I originally scored it a draw. Having watched it a few more times, it could have gone either way to me.

JMM wins: Peden, Medina, Gainer, Salido, Polo, Barrera, Juarez, Casamayor, Diaz, and Katsidis.

At first glance of Marquez' wins, his resume seems to be a bit weak. Barrera was past his prime by the time he fought Marquez and the 2nd Pac fight in 07'. His best win aside form that is probably a past prime-still good Casamayor or Orlando Salido, which isn't ATG status. But, given the fact that he should without a doubt have wins over Norwood, Pacquiao, and John as well, those are all good wins. Norwood would have been a really good win at that time, John would be a very very good win, and Pacquiao would be an ATG win. To me, JMM is an ATG still. He was robbed probably more so than other fight in his era, even more than Winky Wright.

yes, ive seen the john fight not long ago either and therewere some rounds that's really hard to score ...in a close fight the host get's it...no robbery there...the norwood fight was definitely a robbery...

look at those wins, it's weak , not an atg resume at all...barrear and casamyor are the only ones that stand out among those and both were past their bests esp casa when jmm beat him...

[punchville]

hahahahaha You thought Pac-JMM II was 8 rounds to 4 for Manny??? My god........

Round 1: Manny. 10-9 Pac.
Round 2: JMM. 19-19 even.
Round 3: Manny. 29-27 Pac.
Round 4: Manny. 39-36 Pac.
Round 5: JMM. 48-46 Pac.
Round 6: JMM. 57-56 Pac.
Round 7: JMM. 66-66 Even.
Round 8: JMM. 76-75 Marquez.
Round 9: Manny. 85-85 even.
Round 10: JMM. 95-94 Marquez.
Round 11: JMM. 105-103 Marquez.
Round 12: JMM. 115-112 Marquez.

Manny clearly won the 1st, 3rd, and 4th to me. He out landed JMM clearly those rounds. Marquez clearly won the 2nd, 5th, 7th, 8th, and the 12th. He out landed Manny clearly in power shots those rounds, those were clear JMM rounds. The 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th were close rounds to me. I thought Manny did a little more damage than Marquez in the 9th and seemed to land the cleaner punches, so I gave that round to him. The 6th, 10th, and 11th were really close, but Marquez seemed to control the tempo of those rounds. Manny was moving forward but still seemed to be getting tagged at will those rounds by Marquez.

115-112 Marquez. I could see scoring one or two of the close rounds I gave to JMM as even rounds though, but you could also score the round 9 even as well, which I gave to Manny.

what makes you think your scorecard is better than anyone else in here?...the fight could've gone either way , pac won ...plus, the topic aint about who won that fight anyways...it's about marquez fighting **** fighters and getting away with it...he made the p4p doing only one thing, and thats give pac trouble , thats it...

[DeadLikeMe]

So there is a little irony here about the pac/jmm III debate. The pinoy spend months on here spamming to "prove" their guy won, yet the vast majority of the boxing community thought JMM was robbed. Most of these Pacfarts aren't even boxing fans and 99% will be gone when Pac loses/retires. If 99% of them disappear from boxing forums then nobody will be left except the actual boxing fans who almost universally agree JMM got robbed and consider it a Pacquiao loss. So essentially all the months they spent spamming about "foot stomp trick" "stop motion 1080dpi reverse angle double dutch Pacman-cam" and "Marquez face is bruise after match!!! PACMEN DE BEST HE WIN!!!!" are all for nothing. Because none of them will even be around when it comes time to evaluate Pacquiao's career post-retirement.

[punchville]

Pac fans will always see him winning even if he clearly is losing. Do they need to keep making threads such as this one? It is ridiculous. Get off his nuts. He does not give 2 ****s about you...just your money.

well, pac did not clearly lose...the fight was close like what the majority of boxing fans belive ..it's just you nuthuggers that claim it was a robbery...