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  • hugh grant
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    #71
    If Floyd is his own boss how come he is so lethargic in getting fights made? How come Pac has the resume?

    Why is Floyd fighting Cotto and not Sergio or Pac if Floyd is his own boss?

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    • urrah
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      #72
      If this fight happens I hope it's not until next year. Nobody should be fighting someone of Martinez's calibre straight out of jail, Mayweather should first have a tuneup against Alvarez. Winning that Floyd should then fight Martinez if the Pacquiao fight can't be made.

      I'd respect Floyd no matter what weight he fought Martinez at, but if it happens I hope the fight's at 154. Even though Martinez has offered to come down to 150, if Mayweather gets through Cotto at 154 then there's no reason why he shouldn't fight Martinez at 154.

      Originally posted by Fighting Pride
      He's frustrated because a 5'6" undersized welter who's never weighed more than 148 won't fight him giving up 20+ lbs. Imagine how top middelweights like Pirog, Proksa, Golovkin feel when Martinez refuses to fight them, in his own division! Seriously, I liked Martinez when he made his way up, the guy is turning out to be a diva in the Mayweather mould. **** him, I hope his hype gets busted very soon.
      Martinez wants a pay day and there's no money in Proksa, Pirog or Golovkin, not to mention that Pirog's management want to fight Martinez in Russia.

      Originally posted by daggum
      so shouldn't he make that one fight count? instead he turns down pac/martinez to go after a cotto or an ortiz, or some other nonsense fight. why do people care about him is a wonder. hypnotized by crap.
      Ortiz and 154 Cotto are better than anyone Pac has beaten since he moved to WW, Martinez wasn't an option for May 5 because he refused to cancel Macklin, and for the record Pacquiao turned Mayweather down, saying no to $40million. Just like the first round of negotiations it was Pacquiao who walked away from the negotiating table.

      Originally posted by Stl_Buay
      Sergio should really get his head checked... Arum controls Pacquiao about as much as he controled Ali, Leonard, or Hagler... He is a promoter period... He doesn't get to tell Manny who to fight anymore that Golden Boy tells Mayweather or Hopkins... Sergio Martinex is say either on of two things... ALL fighter with promoters are puppets with no power or HIMSELF and ALL other boxers with promoters have complete contol except Manny.... The diference between Mayweather with Golden Boy and Manny with Top Rank is that Mayweather sign one fight contracts and Manny signs 3 fight contracts. That's why MARTINEZ and MAYWEATHER both have promoters.... I'm now convinced that Martinez is a Fuc$ing Idiot!!! He is dying to fight a guy 4 inches shorter and 15 pounds lighter but he wants no parts of Pirog in his own divison and Ward, Bute, and Froch all said they'll come down to fight him.... Sergio Martinez is a MW champ looking to fight WW and not undefeated MW and well known SuperMW, I smell PU$$Y!!!!
      Wishful thinking.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #73
        Originally posted by daggum
        you do know that floyd demanded 10 million to fight 140 pound cotto when he only received 10 million to fight hoya right?? bruseles was a bum. you have to have a story when you fight a bum. hbo went with the hey this guy sucks but he's from puerto rico so let's see how he does so we can hype a floyd/cotto fight. i think someone even said he was considered better than cotto even though he lost multiple times already against nobodies. do you believe that as well?

        where was i? january was a slow month. sorry for not checking in with you. i did say the stadium was a ******ed idea. arum looked like he didn't want to make the fight but then he talked to manny and manny told him to make it but floyd ducked again.

        nobody wanted pac to fight cotto again at 147, 150, or 154 because cotto is nearly finished and we already saw that fight. are you actually complaining that we aren't seeing a ****** fight? bradley-pac is a lot better and floyd-cotto is just too late to matter. it's like pac-mosley. no one should care. fight martinez at 154 or pac at 147 otherwise stay fake retired.
        You really believe this ****?

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        • Stl_Buay
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          #74
          Originally posted by NearHypnos
          notsureifserious, STL Buay. You really don't think Manny is controlled by Arum?

          Also, Martinez is naturally a 154 pounder..who fought at 147. It's not like he fought at 147 in his teens, either..it was in his mid to late 20s. It also doesn't change the fact that Pac ONLY moved up to Martinez's weight (154) after Martinez no longer held the title. Me, as a Pac fan, even I can't justify that one. Pac HAS fought at Martinez's weight class, for what was really Martinez's belt, don't use the "too small" excuse. Martinez is a 154 pounder already fighting out of his weight class. Martinez basically doesn't even have to cut at 160, and is undersized. At about 160..the size differences start becoming much more obvious than at 147 (imo). Not only that, Martinez said he's open to a 165 (I believe that was the number) catchweight bout with Ward...who happens to be big, even at 168. If there's one thing you can't criticize Martinez on (imo, of course) is his willingness to fight the very best. Martinez has earned his spot, has dealt with the bull throughout his career, and pushed through it and is the top guy in a weight class that isn't even his own because nobody of any significance wants to fight the very best these days. Martinez should fight Pirog? What, he should just fight every unknown and unproven guy who wants to fight him? In a different country? In the words of Lou Dibella "**** that". Dude can't even get a decision in America, imagine Russia.


          Also, I don't think he's hating on Cotto at all, he's given his props to Cotto before and even had him beating Margo (even though he wanted Margo to win so they could fight).

          Martinez has to be the nicest dude people have ever hated on. God forbid the number 3 p4p challenges anyone. He's got to be the best fighter who gets hated on for challenging people of recent memory. What's the world come to these days? Maybe if he was ugly.. >__>...he'd get some love.
          Dude you are a Stan, all you said about Martinez being a undersized MW, you can say Manny is a undersized WW... You say Manny fought in Martinez old division of 154 but you fell to mention he weighed in at 144.5... I guess to you weighing in at 144.5 makes you a legit JrMW.... Anyone making any arguement that Manny should fight above 147 is just ignorant a doesn't know anything about boxing... Manny is tied to Morales, Barrera, and Marquez and nobody is asking them to fight above 147... Don't you think Manny should come in at 147 be thinking of fighting at 150 or 154... The man said after the Margarito fight he will never fight above 147 again "it's too much weight" but since its Pac that's not good enough but if Morales, Marquez, and Barrera said anything above 147 is too much you guys wouldn't have a problem with that. Martinez is a phony he has Pirog, Froch, and Ward willing and ready and he wants to fight a guy two divisions down... Sergio should fight a real MW first and not these bums.. Pirog well bust up Marinez and KO him worse than Margarito and that's why we have Martinez vs. ??? yet again instead of any viable MW like Pirog....

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          • Stl_Buay
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            #75
            urrah, I guess you drank the kool aide too. Mayweather says after fight I gotta talk to Al Haymon and Golden Boy... Arum is not Pacquiao's Laywer or personal avisor or manager for that matter. NOBODY at this level in boxing doesn't have control of their career... Their lawyers, managers, and advisors won't allow them to sign a contract giving up control over their career... Just use you common sense... Learn what the term indusrty standards mean and you'll understan how boxing work. At this level their are industry standard contracts and they are basically the same just like in any sport or major industry. The CEO at Mc Donalds contract is like the one for the CEO for Burger King... The CEO for Direct TV contract is like the one for the guy of Dish Network... The second that one thing changes the others in the industry follow suit PERIOD... I a fighter found a way to get 75% the other fighters and their lawyers will soon follow suit. Kind of like how their was Bad Boy and Death Row with 50/50 deals until Master P came with No Limits 85/15 deal and the rest of the industry followed suit... This is business 101 I learned in my Soph. year... Don't believe the hype that these clowns are trying to sell because it only speaks of their ignorance and lack of common sense... As soon a person does good in a industry the rest follow suit... Except of Mayweather's genius.... LOL if you believe that I got some trees in the jungle for sale... LOL

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            • COACH WEBB
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              #76
              A Mayweather-Martinez fight is wayyyyy more intriguing to me than a Mayweather-Manny fight. Hope they make it happen.

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              • b0ndsj0ns20
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                #77
                Originally posted by Check_hooks
                Martinez stay thinking about Pacquiao day and night.

                One day Martinez says that he'd have to cut off a leg to fight at 154 and now he says he can fight at 150?

                One day he flat out ducks and dodges Zbik and Pirog when they were his mandatories and now he trashes JCC Jr for the same thing?

                This guys is a flat out hypocrite and coward for not getting in the right with Pirog
                Dodge Zbik? He wanted to fight him and HBO shot it down, then let Chavez fight him for Martinez' belt. You are an idiot.

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                • randyjoe44
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                  #78
                  Sergio is talking to much crap he thinks hes something out of this world n he has beaten crapy fihters only he has not fight with a good fighter yet only average fighters like Pavlik that only defeat Taylor n Williams that always is winning controversial desicions he shouldnt even be in the P4P list hes says FM will have fun with Cotto n maybe Floyd win that fight but is going to be hes worst nightmare n if Sergio fight Cotto it will the same nightmare Cotto kicking hes but so stop the crap Maravilla girl

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by COACH WEBB
                    A Mayweather-Martinez fight is wayyyyy more intriguing to me than a Mayweather-Manny fight. Hope they make it happen.
                    Nah i woiuld say people want to see Pac and Floyd more, but they are getting on peoples nerves by not having fought already as FLoyd is scared and always putting barriers up.

                    People would love to see if Floyd is scared of Sergio as well, so are daring FLoyd to get the fight made if he wont fight Pac.

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                    • Gino Ros
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                      #80
                      I like Sergio Martinez so much.

                      He is always candid and speaks the truth. You have to respect that.

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