Cotto vs. Mayweather = Castillo vs Mayweather I?

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  • Da Boxer
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    #41
    Dont know about that.

    If Miguel comes truly prepared and can find a flaw on FMJr. defense and could capitalize on it he may have a chance.

    This fight, could have fight of the year on it. Miguel is a warrior and Floyd will not be playing around. This could be a sick fight Gentleman!

    Im ready for this! Cant wait, Miguel will bring his A game for FMJr!

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    • William Blake
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      #42
      That's a lot what I was thinking. Cotto has never looked good going backward- though he did do that very well against Margarito the second time- and I can see him bullying Mayweather around the ring, forcing him to the ropes, and going hard to the body. This is going to be a much tougher fight for Floyd that a lot of people think.

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      • WitherGlove
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        #43
        I keep reading this size strength argument and I just have to say that Ortiz was 165 Floyd was 150 on fight night and it didn't matter at all. People seem to forget even before the crazy ending Ortiz already had a black eye on the right side of his face from all the left hooks. Cotto ain't Ortiz but that fight shows size doesn't matter sometimes. It will come down to skill which Mayweather has more of.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #44
          Originally posted by JmH Reborn
          Maybe not conditioning, but he certainly brings strength, size and durability...and um, new weight.

          This statement...you typed it faster than you thought about it.

          Cotto went hard for 11 w/ Margarito I and 12 hard w/ Pacquaio. He also went 12 hard w/ Clottey after getting that gash.If that isn't a testament to someone's durability, then I don't know what is
          So much wrong with the bold, but listen, Cotto doesn't bring Castillo's strength , JLC was a big LW, Cotto is a small Jr MW and is hardly any bigger than Floyd. Castillo was able to push Floyd around, which was attributed to Castillo's strength and Floyd being new to the LW division. This match up is a completely different fight, I wouldn't make that comparison. Floyd has filled in alot since then, he's noticeably stronger too, you can't tell me Cotto is gonna force Mayweather to use the ring similar to the way Castillo did, and honestly I see the opposite of that happening. Floyd's stronger than Miguel.
          Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 02-18-2012, 12:19 PM.

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          • -Kev-
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
            What bothered Floyd was Castillo's strength, size, durability, conditioning, he was new to the weight too. Cotto doesn't bring much of those qualities.
            I believe Floyd was just not 100%. He was an injured fighter and had very limited arsenal of punches due to his injury. He came in 100 percent in the rematch and did much much better, despite the scores being closer, the judges were just influenced to give Castillo a "fair shake" and overdid it. Floyd won the rematch with ease, used his legs properly and most importantly all of his punches were there. The first fight was more about what Floyd didn't do, due to his injury, rather than what Castillo did. I'm positive Mayweather beats JLC 10 out of 10 times as long as he's healthy.

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            • ChampBox@PR
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
              So much wrong with the bold, but listen, Cotto doesn't bring Castillo's strength , JLC was a big LW, Cotto is a small Jr MW and is hardly any bigger than Floyd. Castillo was able to push Floyd around, which was attributed to Castillo's strength and Floyd being new to the LW division. This match up is a completely different fight, I wouldn't make that comparison. Floyd has filled in alot since then, he's noticeably stronger too, you can't tell me Cotto is gonna force Mayweather to use the ring similar to the way Castillo did, and honestly I see the opposite of that happening. Floyd's stronger than Miguel.
              You know how ridiculous the bold sounds? Im sorry platano but that statement is idiotic!!

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              • FJRod
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                #47
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                Just one possible outcome. We know Floyd has been looking older and his legs are nearly gones. He looked uncomfortable when forced to move against Ortiz...and don't get me wrong, I like Floyd too
                No not at all. No way Cotto wins 115 to 111.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Luilun
                  I see an upset comming. If Floyd hadn't sucker punch Ortiz he would have gotten hammered pretty good even though him winning the bout.
                  Are you kidding me? Did you see Ortiz's face? It was only the 4th round and he was badly swelling up. At the rate he was eating right hands they would have stopped the fight eventually.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    I believe Floyd was just not 100%. He was an injured fighter and had very limited arsenal of punches due to his injury. He came in 100 percent in the rematch and did much much better, despite the scores being closer, the judges were just influenced to give Castillo a "fair shake" and overdid it. Floyd won the rematch with ease, used his legs properly and most importantly all of his punches were there. The first fight was more about what Floyd didn't do, due to his injury, rather than what Castillo did. I'm positive Mayweather beats JLC 10 out of 10 times as long as he's healthy.
                    Agree, something like 9 rounds to 3 in the rematch, but even in the rematch Castillo was the stronger guy and forced Mayweather to use the ring. This is why I say Mayweather became a different fighter at 140++, bulked up, got more physical with guys, started using his forearms more, fighting more in the pocket. Castillo was still one of the few opponents, or only opponent, where Floyd couldn't pick and choose where he wanted to fight, he had to fight in a way where he could only take what Castillo gave him for the most part.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                      You know how ridiculous the bold sounds? Im sorry platano but that statement is idiotic!!
                      So your expecting Cotto to walk through Mayweather's punches, man handle Floyd and force Floyd to use the ring? That's even more ridiculous. Also, when I say Castillo's stronger, I'm talking about in their perspective divisions, at 135 Castillo is much stronger at that weight than Cotto is at 154, not even debatable.

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