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  • #91
    Anyways, this thread is not about Duran/Leonard, Cotto/Mosley, Floyd/Castillo. The only thing that matters is Cotto/Mayweather will not be anywhere near the matchup that Gatti/Mayweather was.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Leonard fought how he fought for 95% of his career in the first Duran fight.

      He didn't 'rely' in his opponent ****ing up they both came to fight like they normally did and Duran got the better of him.
      Leonard ***ed up because he underestimated his opponent. Just because it's your typical fighting style doesn't mean you should stick to it. Had he actually studied Duran he would of realized that it wasn't the best way to get the victory. Ray was too inexperienced and the moment was just too big for him. These are his words, not mine btw. I believe he was boozing it up the most at this point in his career too.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Boxer1590 View Post
        This comparison is constantly thrown out there. I don't understand it at all. The results of the Bruseles fight are pretty much completely irrelevant as far as attempting to draw conclusions to a Mayweather-Cotto fight. Cotto and Bruseles are friends, Puerto Rican, and were at one time both trained by Evangelista....comparisons end there. Cotto is by far superior to Bruseles, and Gatti too for that matter.
        Kids that started watching boxing last year or so will say something that ******. Bruseles is a mental midget also. Saying that they are the same is believing that he can beat Torres, Paulie, Quintana, Mosley or Clottey. That aint happening.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Check View Post
          Leonard ***ed up because he underestimated his opponent. Just because it's your typical fighting style doesn't mean you should stick to it. Had he actually studied Duran he would of realized that it wasn't the best way to get the victory. Ray was too inexperienced and the moment was just too big for him. These are his words, not mine btw. I believe he was boozing it up the most at this point in his career too.
          Ray Leonard, like everyone else at that time, thought he could out fight the smaller Duran with his vast size and speed advantage.

          Just because he had every excuse in the book after Duran shocked the world doesn't mean he was 'inexperienced'

          This is the guy had stopped the ATG, undefeated Wilfred Benitez before he fought Duran. The Welterweight Champion of the world, that inexperienced guy?

          Too inexperienced?

          He was considered to be the best fighter in the world at that time. Leonard's win over Benitez was better than any single win Duran had. Albeit, Duran was the more exerienced of the two, of course. But Leonard was not 'inexperienced' by any stretch of the imagination.

          You actually think Leonard didn't study Duran for their fight in 1980? Really?

          Leonard came to fight like he always did throughout pretty much his entire career and he came up short. That's all there is to it.

          And Leonard certainly wasn't 'boozing it up the most at this point in his career" in 1980 either.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Ray Leonard, like everyone else at that time, thought he could out fight the smaller Duran with his vast size and speed advantage.

            Just because he had every excuse in the book after Duran shocked the world doesn't mean he was 'inexperienced'

            This is the guy had stopped the ATG, undefeated Wilfred Benitez before he fought Duran. The Welterweight Champion of the world, that inexperienced guy?

            Too inexperienced?

            He was considered to be the best fighter in the world at that time. Leonard's win over Benitez was better than any single win Duran had. Albeit, Duran was the more exerienced of the two, of course. But Leonard was not 'inexperienced' by any stretch of the imagination.

            You actually think Leonard didn't study Duran for their fight in 1980? Really?

            Leonard came to fight like he always did throughout pretty much his entire career and he came up short. That's all there is to it.

            And Leonard certainly wasn't 'boozing it up the most at this point in his career" in 1980 either.
            Too inexperienced was referring to the whole atmosphere and build up. A lot of these things could be Ray being bitter but the whole experience thing I believe him. Ray never fought in that type of fight. There was nearly 45,000 people and he simply wasn't prepared for it. The buildup also got to him(duran saying awful things etc). I can see where he was coming from. Either way had Leonard fought the style in the second fight, in the fights fight Duran doesn't win.

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            • #96
              The Gatti comparison is offensive. While Cotto is no defensive maestro, he pays more attention to defense than Gatti. And he's just several overall levels above Gatti.

              Cotto will lose in decisive fashion in his own way, but it won't look like the Gatti fight.

              And the win over Castillo>Cotto's win over Mosley, for that silly argument.

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              • #97
                Leonard fought great versus Duran and would have beat just about anyone that night. Two of the ATG's warred and one was better that night.

                Period.

                Next.

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                • #98
                  This is an unfair comparison.. Not to disrespect Gatti but Cotto brings more to a fight than Gatti..

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    It's significantly better.
                    I can say the same about cotto' s resume vs gatti.....

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                    • At the end.... if cotto is so shot and washed.... that will bring us back again to the "floyd only fight shot fighters" subject ...

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