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  • #41
    Originally posted by Toyman View Post
    the commentators were only stating the obvious:

    that pac was winning


    and its hard to truthfully disagree with that when you see these











    marquez had to go so far as to wear a hat at the post fight conference to hide all those bumps and bruises he sustained! meanwhile, aside from the headbutt, pac was not even once hurt by marquez
    Go play in traffic!!...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
      No you're right. I don't think Steward was thinking about it tactically...he was speaking from the point of view of, it's a close fight, Pac's the A side, you've been robbed before, you gotta make SURE you take these rounds.

      Either way, JMM couldn't do that. He fights Pacquiao so tough because he DOESN'T do that. Steward was just thinking he's gotta emphatically win the championship rounds if he wants to get the decision. Also the HBO guys, not just Lederman, were feeling that Pacquiao was winning. Why I don't know, I had Marquez clearly ahead, but they were operating under the assumption that Marquez was behind.
      simply because theyre at the ringside aside form first hand seeing what was happening they also hear how gloves connecting and not connecting sounds like

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      • #43
        hbo sounded so desperate trying to convince people that cash cow manny won. they know they have to blow him off because arum could go to showtime again. jmm won. you dont have to come forward to be effective. you dont have to aggressive to win. marquez won 8-4 on my card. landed all the clean power shots. made pac miss all night.

        you guys should watch the tv azteca mexican broadcast. they tkold it like it was screaming roberry at the decision. even done a show called robo en las vegas with juan manuel on the show. its available on youtube.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by loui_ludwig View Post
          I don't think he meant as come forward and just get hit. I think he meant come forward and throw punch more, of course trying not to get hit. More activity from JMM to outwork Pac. I gave the 12th round to Pac. Not sure about the 11th, i think i gave it to JMM. Overall, it was a back and forth ever round. Pac winning this round, then JMM the next round.

          Yeah, a lot of people don't know Pac can counter punch. Not as great as Marquez, but he can do it against him.
          He couldn't come forward PERIOD. The reason that JMM has given Pac such a difficult time is because he doesn't come forward with him. Doing so in any way would go against the basic strategy that has been so successful for him.

          The second he attempts to come forward , whether being defensive or not, Manny is destroying him.

          I don't think most of you know how incredibly hard it is for a fighter like JMM who has no business at that weight, has no physical advantages on Manny and is literally dancing on the ledge of a 100 story building when he fights Manny because one false move and he's asleep.

          The very notion that JMM went 12 rounds with Manny 3 times and in the opinion of many won 2 out of 3 and then went 12 rounds with Mayweather is simply amazing.

          I used to rank the 3 great LW of Mexico like this: #1 Barrera, #2 Morales and #3 JMM. Now it's easy to see JMM is the greatest of those 3. We might never see another trio of fighters like them ever, the way we got to see Leonard, Hearns and Hagler here in the U.S.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by tibbar View Post
            simply because theyre at the ringside aside form first hand seeing what was happening they also hear how gloves connecting and not connecting sounds like
            Being at ringside is also a major disadvantage when it comes to being able to actually see. We have the advantage of watching on television from the best angles depending on where the fighters are....the commentators don't have that advantage.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              That was reffering to compubox. I never said Pacman didn't land, why don't you try again, read slowly.
              I don't know about this Compubox...look man...didn't even give Pacquiao, his credit...



              ...now...compubox is giving the credit to Marquez...WTH...

              [IMG]http://i1168.***********.com/albums/r484/Bee_Keepz/compubox.gif[/IMG]

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              • #47
                The only thing that rings a bell about this fight is how JMM was robbed. The other thing was (I believe it was round 7) where JMM is popping Pac and the commentators were simply talking about how great Manny was..lol

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bdevils View Post
                  Go play in traffic!!...
                  Marquez already did and that's how he looks like after.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    From top, I never said Pacman didn't land like you 1st claimed, so this discussion should just end here, shouldn't it?
                    Don't act dumb u didn't say it but u posted it up meaning U agree with it. U wouldn't post something up if u don't agree. Now tell me where did I ever compare fighters faces and say the one with the less damage won?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by PACsmash View Post
                      Don't act dumb u didn't say it but u posted it up meaning U agree with it. U wouldn't post something up if u don't agree. Now tell me where did I ever compare fighters faces and say the one with the less damage won?
                      Last time. I simply said what compubox was, it isn't fact based, period. I also never said Pacman didn't land like you claimed. I said Marquez landed more clean effective blows. Marquez's face being messed up doesn't mean Pacman landed more, it means he's the bigger puncher.

                      You shouldn't debate when you're claiming people say something that they didn't. Again I never said Pacman didn't land. I said compubox is simply humans pushing bottons when he believes something lands.

                      It does not matter what I agree with. Compubox is a man pushing bottons on what he percieves, period.

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