Manny Stewart's comments during JMM vs Pac

[IMDAZED]

Steward is an offensive-minded trainer, regardless of score - guess he likes to leave nothing to chance. His flip-flopping as an analyst is pretty hilarious though.

[Bushbaby]

Marquez face tell a different story. I guess the punches did landed.

Bro I get it, it's hard for someone of your intellect to understand. Of course Pacman landed punches. These are pro fighters we're discussing here. I also saw Donaires face last weekend in a fight he dominated. What does what a fighters face look like have to do with anything? Did you see Pawell's face in the 1st fight with Delvin, he didn't lose BTW.

Go get your slow mo cam & your compubox records & tell me all about it.

[Bushbaby]

Food for thought. Amir Khan even thought Pacman lost.....................until he got in touch with Roach. He had to change his mind real quick.

[PACsmash]

Bro I get it, it's hard for someone of your intellect to understand. Of course Pacman landed punches. These are pro fighters we're discussing here. I also saw Donaires face last weekend in a fight he dominated. What does what a fighters face look like have to do with anything? Did you see Pawell's face in the 1st fight with Delvin, he didn't lose BTW.

Go get your slow mo cam & your compubox records & tell me all about it.

My reply was referring to this that's all ----

(Most people don't know that its just some guy tapping away at punches that he believes landed)

[John Barron]

Steward is an offensive-minded trainer, regardless of score - guess he likes to leave nothing to chance. His flip-flopping as an analyst is pretty hilarious though.

it all depends on what their viewers want to hear. it's funny to hear them taking jabs at manny pacquiao sometimes when somebody else is fighting because HBO understands not many pacquiao fans are watching the telecast. ironically, steward does this a lot more than other commentators.

[Mr. Philadel]

Food for thought. Amir Khan even thought Pacman lost.....................until he got in touch with Roach. He had to change his mind real quick.

yup!!!!

I agree with TS...the HBO dudes were just sucking up Manny something viscious!!....yall know Jim Lampley is one of the Executive Producers for that "On Freddie Roach" bs....those dudes got agendas and it was on full display that night...Marquez did his thing and I'm sick of cats saying just because he did better than expected...that created some type of illusion....GTFOH...Marquez won that fight...it wasn't even close

I remember watching that fight and my phone starting buzzing...I told my homie I was watching the fight and it was around the 8th round...I told him I got Manny winning like one round...two max!!!

[IMDAZED]

it all depends on what their viewers want to hear. it's funny to hear them taking jabs at manny pacquiao sometimes when somebody else is fighting because HBO understands not many pacquiao fans are watching the telecast. ironically, steward does this a lot more than other commentators.

[Bushbaby]

My reply was referring to this that's all ----

(Most people don't know that its just some guy tapping away at punches that he believes landed)

I don't care. I've given 2 recent examples of winners, (1 a draw) where the fighters face was ****ed off. So that excuse is dumb, that is all.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

No you're right. I don't think Steward was thinking about it tactically...he was speaking from the point of view of, it's a close fight, Pac's the A side, you've been robbed before, you gotta make SURE you take these rounds.

Either way, JMM couldn't do that. He fights Pacquiao so tough because he DOESN'T do that. Steward was just thinking he's gotta emphatically win the championship rounds if he wants to get the decision. Also the HBO guys, not just Lederman, were feeling that Pacquiao was winning. Why I don't know, I had Marquez clearly ahead, but they were operating under the assumption that Marquez was behind.

1st off bro, the only commentator that was remotely accurate was kellerman that night. They called Marquez running. Fact is his back barely touched the ropes. Fact is the Pacman offense was hushed. Most of the clean effective punches were landed by Marquez. I've watched the fight about 10 times at least & Marquez owned the 11th.

Manny's footwork was garbage. All he used ot for was to jump in, throw meaningless punches & dart away. He coudn't trap Marquez, he never hurt him & Roach was begging for a ko. Compubox was way way of. Most people don't know that its just some guy tapping away at punches that he believes landed. If Merchant or that other idiot were doing compu box, you'd swear the fight was a 1 sided beating in favor of Pacman.

I can't green K you guys more. Seriously, the two of you are some of the best posters here and are the only one's who understand my point in this thread. It isn't about who won but rather Ste***** advice.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Steward's right, if it's a really close fight, you need to press the action just as much as your opponent, otherwise you run the risk of having the rounds stolen from you.

And HBO's color commentary is kind of a joke these days. Lampley, Merchant, meh. Steward's not bad, and Roy Jones was fun to listen to when he filled in.

Yes but JMM can't do that, it would be tactical suicide for him to do so. I think Nacho said something in the post fight presser that was sad but true. He said he might need to change his style of teaching because he teaches a tactical, very technical style of boxing that judges like Letterman just dismiss as not being "effective aggression". Problem is, Letterman isn't taking the first word "effective" into consideration.

Manny was the aggressor no doubt but wasn't as effective as Letterman was making him out to be.