Comments Thread For: Miguel Cotto, Timothy Bradley, and Reasonable Chances

[Rome-By-Ko]

You must have have conveniently skipped over my post. You posted your thoughts, how bout backing them up with a few examples at least. How do you figure that floyd will discourage Cotto? Mayweather stronger than cotto? Good thing fights aren't decided based upon what you think.

Cotto was not stronger then Mosley,Mayweather was stronger then Mosley..Cotto has been discourage in his fights with Pac and Marga's..Just a few examples,does this make you feel better??Of course fights are not won or lost on what I or you think,but we are both on this site giving are opinions none the less right??Floyd has become some what of a pressure fighter as well,look how he beat Mosley and Ortiz..Not as much movement coming from May,he is going to school Cotto,I was not really impressed with Cotto in his last fight with Marga's either..Marga's had one eye and Cotto was still backing straight back,and his conditioning was still nothing to write home about..There is nothing I've seen from Cotto in his last 4 fights that makes me believe he has a shot to beat May..This is still a guy who(imo)lost to Clottey or,if ya believe he won he did it by the skin of his teeth..

[Rome-By-Ko]

bradley is the strongest guy in the weight room but weakest in the ring

Can you name the fighter that looked stronger then Bradley in the ring??I'll wait..

[a_fuego]

Cotto was not stronger then Mosley,Mayweather was stronger then Mosley..Cotto has been discourage in his fights with Pac and Marga's..Just a few examples,does this make you feel better??Of course fights are not won or lost on what I or you think,but we are both on this site giving are opinions none the less right??Floyd has become some what of a pressure fighter as well,look how he beat Mosley and Ortiz..Not as much movement coming from May,he is going to school Cotto,I was not really impressed with Cotto in his last fight with Marga's either..Marga's had one eye and Cotto was still backing straight back,and his conditioning was still nothing to write home about..There is nothing I've seen from Cotto in his last 4 fights that makes me believe he has a shot to beat May..This is still a guy who(imo)lost to Clottey or,if ya believe he won he did it by the skin of his teeth..

wasn't trying to pick on you, just that people writing off Cotto out of personal opinion as opposed to facts. I'll give you those 2 fights, not only was he discouraged, both of them beat him down. Floyd isn't either and that's the difference. Although Floyd has been a bit more offensive as of late, and probably won't change that at first against Cotto. Why should he? He is faster and is an excellent counter puncher. If Cotto brings that superb timing, his speed may be annulled. A bit more offensive is a far cry from a pressure fighter. Margarito couldn't see out of one eye, not that he was missing a leg. He pressured forward and Cotto chose to RUN backwards as opposed to circle him frequently. Actually I'd say it was better than it has been in the past few years. He was running back, albeit fighting effectively, he was in a 5th reverse gear. Yes he beat Clottey by the skin of his teeth, no doubt. That was a period when Cotto was at his worst in his career and he still sc****d by a top rated WW. If it was a non troubled Cotto, he would have won a clearer decision, I truly doubt he would have KO'd Clottey.

I do disagree about what Cotto has shown. He has shown that he has gotten his personal life somewhat together (divorce, sex scandal, quarrel with uncle, dads death, etc). He has a solid corner and support group around him and he isn't killing himself to make weight. All that in my opinion equates to a better and more focused Cotto than a few years past, which spells trouble for Floyd.

[a_fuego]

Can you name the fighter that looked stronger then Bradley in the ring??I'll wait..

Bradley may not be ko'ing fools but I have to agree with you here. He looks stronger than his opponents. 7lbs north may benefit his power.

[MURAKAMI9]

I'll have to wait and see if I can win some more bets because I have a bet on the fight that will tie up almost all my points.

I may take some prop bets on Mayweather to offset my losses in case Cotto catches beatdown.

i barely have any points since im new. we could just do 250.0 lol

[bray26]

Skill wise I will give the edge to Bradley..Better foot movement and I think Bradley will be very physical with Pac(I believe Bradley will be stronger then Pac as well)which will give Pac a lot of trouble as well..Pac's edge is in the speed and power department..I also will give an edge to Bradley in defense,guy's who just count out Bradley and say Pac is superior in every way to Bradley have not been watching closely...

Bradley hadls skill, I agree, he's undefeated! And u have to give him his due! I think what hurts him in this fight is that he's an in your face, aggressive kind of fighter! He keeps a good pace and work rate with his punches per round. And fights and fighters like that Pac has done his best work. One or two things is gonna happen, hes gonna feel Pacs power and 1)trade or 2) run. Either way most probably leads to a loss. A close fight is gonna favor PAC because of the powers that be. So ultimately Bradley will have to A) KO PAC or completely out class him and those two are just hard for me to see happening. But who knows? It's boxing right

[Rome-By-Ko]

wasn't trying to pick on you, just that people writing off Cotto out of personal opinion as opposed to facts. I'll give you those 2 fights, not only was he discouraged, both of them beat him down. Floyd isn't either and that's the difference. Although Floyd has been a bit more offensive as of late, and probably won't change that at first against Cotto. Why should he? He is faster and is an excellent counter puncher. If Cotto brings that superb timing, his speed may be annulled. A bit more offensive is a far cry from a pressure fighter. Margarito couldn't see out of one eye, not that he was missing a leg. He pressured forward and Cotto chose to RUN backwards as opposed to circle him frequently. Actually I'd say it was better than it has been in the past few years. He was running back, albeit fighting effectively, he was in a 5th reverse gear. Yes he beat Clottey by the skin of his teeth, no doubt. That was a period when Cotto was at his worst in his career and he still sc****d by a top rated WW. If it was a non troubled Cotto, he would have won a clearer decision, I truly doubt he would have KO'd Clottey.

I do disagree about what Cotto has shown. He has shown that he has gotten his personal life somewhat together (divorce, sex scandal, quarrel with uncle, dads death, etc). He has a solid corner and support group around him and he isn't killing himself to make weight. All that in my opinion equates to a better and more focused Cotto than a few years past, which spells trouble for Floyd.

Maybe,maybe not..I'm not yet sold on Cotto because since Pac he really has not fought a real challenge,ya know??Someone that I can say yea that right there was a good win..Even the Marga's fight would have been better had Marga's had both eye's working,imo that took away from Cotto's victory to an extent..But who has he beat since Clottey to make you say ok Cotto still has something going??It's one thing to beat up on One eye'd Marga's or Mayorga or Foreman..It's another to fight a fresh fighter in Mayweather who might not be prime but even that version of May is the best fighter in the sport...Tall order if ya ask me...

[Rome-By-Ko]

Bradley hadls skill, I agree, he's undefeated! And u have to give him his due! I think what hurts him in this fight is that he's an in your face, aggressive kind of fighter! He keeps a good pace and work rate with his punches per round. And fights and fighters like that Pac has done his best work. One or two things is gonna happen, hes gonna feel Pacs power and 1)trade or 2) run. Either way most probably leads to a loss. A close fight is gonna favor PAC because of the powers that be. So ultimately Bradley will have to A) KO PAC or completely out class him and those two are just hard for me to see happening. But who knows? It's boxing right

I don't know why people believe Bradley is Hatton,Bradley likes to pressure but he is far more versatile then that bro...Bradley can fight off the back foot as well as putting pressure,and what I notice most about is whatever is your strength is what he try's to take away..Pac does not like being clinch and has very poor defense,Bradley is hard to hit cleanly..I think Pac should be favored and will be favored,but don't sleep on Bradley and what he brings to the table..Bradley is better then most give him credit for...

[bray26]

I don't know why people believe Bradley is Hatton,Bradley likes to pressure but he is far more versatile then that bro...Bradley can fight off the back foot as well as putting pressure,and what I notice most about is whatever is your strength is what he try's to take away..Pac does not like being clinch and has very poor defense,Bradley is hard to hit cleanly..I think Pac should be favored and will be favored,but don't sleep on Bradley and what he brings to the table..Bradley is better then most give him credit for...

Man Hatton is not even in this conversation! But like u said this is all just opinion. And it's my opinion that Bradley's skill set is not one that has given Pac problems. He has good movement and hasn't been hit cleanly alot. But I think we both agree he will get hit in this fight! Not saying it's impossible for him to win, but it's an uphill battle for him. 2 of the biggest questions are can he take a punch and will he be ready for the stage? He did against Alexander but this fight is gonna be much much bigger than that. How will he handle the circus and will he perform when he's center stage

[MURAKAMI9]

Can you name the fighter that looked stronger then Bradley in the ring??I'll wait..

looks stronger? idk bradley is the most ripped guy in boxing. i acknowledge that. but i think gamboa is probably stronger than him.