Mayweather: "I'll only fight Martinez at 150 lbs, I'll fight Cotto at 154."
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Disclaimer: The title is not a quote of Mayweather. It is too separate documented things he said he was willing to do. It's paraphrased and the quotes should be removed. At the end of the day, those are the things he said he'd be willing to do. But that's besides the point as that is not the thread's main point. It's simply about the reality that CW's have existed for a long time and have a place in boxing.
Note: This thread was inspired by a fan in Fat Dan's Chat. Also, all Pacquiao and Mayweather huggers please exit this thread now. I know you won't listen, but it was worth a shot. Here we go:
The fact that Mayweather is willing to fight Cotto at 154 but would make Martinez drop to 150 speaks volumes.
Obviously the issue of weight has nothing to do with caring whether or not his opponent is comfortable, but more about he doesn't feel he needs to adjust his weight to win. And if he can overcome a small sticking point and insult Pac at the same time? All the better. If Mayweather/JMM didn't tell you that Mayweather doesn't care about CW's, then I guess you aren't going to get it.
With that said though, it's not just Mayweather. Pac has used catchweights. Cotto attempted to make Margario fight below 154 for their rematch(so for everyone, Cotto included, b*tching about CWs? What a joke.) And throughout boxing history, many, many fighters have used catchweights.
It's all a matter of one fighter having more clout than his opponent, a genuine need for a catchweight between two fighters from different weight classes, or a CW being treated as a bargaining chip in a negotiation. At the end of the day, they exist, they aren't great. BUT they are a part of boxing and there are many guilty parties.
First of all it was not Floyds idea to fight Martinez at 150,its Martinez that threw out that number and Floyd just simply said ok.,secondly Cotto was criticized by people for asking for a catchweight,third we all know Manny did not invent catchweights.Comment
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He did imply it, yes.
But the fact is he hasn't denied it, yet.
We all know Floyd can say one thing today and change his mind tommorow.
And I'm not even saying that Floyd will fight him above 150. In all honestly, it wouldn't at all suprise me if he did say 150 is the limit.
The main and pretty much only point I'm making here is you simply can't say Floyd said "I will only fight Martinez at 150" when he simply hasn't said it. Whether he implied it or not is irrelevant to the quote.Comment
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Its actually hilarious. Floyd's own fanbase are making him out to be a ***ing moron.
His whole M.O for the Cotto fight has been "I don't fight at catchweights" or "Im fighting him at his real weight". He keeps playing on that
So why wouldn't he say that he would fight Sergio at his real weight? Why explicitly state "if he makes 150" twice.
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Especially **** like this.
But in all seriousness, we know Mayweather. He'll say one thing one day and something else the next.
I agree he obviously made the implication there that 150 is where he'd want the fight. But, again, the fact is he hasn't said anything to rule out an interest in the fight if Martinez changes his stance.
The "If he makes 150 we can fight" could easily just be in response to the proposal of 150.
Until he out and out states he will not fight Martinez above 150 we can't really say he has said "He will only fight Martinez at 150".
And I agree with your closing statement, I doubt it happens too but I sure am hoping it does.Comment
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Its actually hilarious. Floyd's own fanbase are making him out to be a ***ing moron.
His whole M.O for the Cotto fight has been "I don't fight at catchweights" or "Im fighting him at his real weight". He keeps playing on that
So why wouldn't he say that he would fight Sergio at his real weight? Why explicitly state "if he makes 150" twice.
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There's a huge difference between:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is calling you out for a fight, what's your reponse?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
And:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is saying he's willing to drop down to 150 to fight either you or Pac, what's your response?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
You're ****ting on him for acknowledging a reporter's question and twisting it like FLOYD brought up the catchweight in the first place.
Not sure how much more clear this has to be explained.Comment
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There's a huge difference between:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is calling you out for a fight, what's your reponse?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
And:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is saying he's willing to drop down to 150 to fight either you or Pac, what's your response?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
You're ****ting on him for acknowledging a reporter's question and twisting it like FLOYD brought up the catchweight in the first place.
Not sure how much more clear this has to be explained.
It looks pretty clear to me. But I guess people see what they want.Comment
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There's a huge difference between:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is calling you out for a fight, what's your reponse?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
And:
Reporter: Floyd, Sergio is saying he's willing to drop down to 150 to fight either you or Pac, what's your response?
Floyd: If he can make 150, we can do it.
You're ****ting on him for acknowledging a reporter's question and twisting it like FLOYD brought up the catchweight in the first place.
Not sure how much more clear this has to be explained.
It's Sergio's fault, his own desperation to get big fights led to him saying stuff like this which can be used against him. Similar to Pacquiao saying he'd take less money to make the Floyd fight than going back on his word.Comment
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