Mayweather only fights the best fighters out there

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You're just talking out of your ass daggum, I think you should stick to pointlessly hating on Calzaghe like an obsessed stalker, that's your niche here. Floyd Mayweather Jr. earned 25 million fighting De La Hoya, he left Top Rank because it was the best business decision to make (look how Manny is getting screwed), same reason Oscar left Top Rank.

he only had a 10 million guarantee like i said. he didn't know he would earn 25 million total since he doesn not have access to a time machine and either do you. he asked for a 10 million guarantee to fight cotto when cotto was fighting at 140 as well as a 20 million guarantee to fight delehoya. obviously arum could not guarantee these crazy numbers so floyd left. like i said it's not about the money its about the control over who he faces more than anything. if it was about the money why didn't floyd fight cotto when cotto was a huge star and would have made him much more than any other fight in boxing? instead he avoided the fight because he had creative control. it's not about the money! it's about being able to choose your opponent more than anything.

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Well it's hard to fight someone when one person walks away from the table. It's not even about looking in their last fight. They were the best available opponents. You can cut it and spin it anyway you want for it to fit your agenda. But, they were the best available opponents.

Yes, they couldn't come to an agreement the first time. Mainly because Floyd put that OST wrench .... but it is what it is.

Floyd was not going to take on Manny after that layoff. He stated on several occasions that he used Ortiz as a tuneup fight. There were no serious talks for the Manny fight then.

Still Manny was available and if 2 guys want to really fight then this fight would have been made already .... so we need to wait until they both really want to fight each other.

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He looked garbage against Mayorga did he the Mosley Manny ducked , so what are you saying he looked great against Floyd and greater against Mora , when your on the way down kid , you get progressively worse not better ,, sheessse and you talk form , dimwit lol .

Hatton gassed against Collazo because he weighed 160 lbs , he said after the fight he would never ever be that heavy again he felt so sluggish , he also heated real bad ,,,,, part of the form you dont read or understand , just the win or loss is all you see just like I said in the opening post !

Ortiz came of a FOY material fight after rising in weight , Roach said that Ortiz at 147 is a beast and gives Pac hell , also said that making 140 kills him ,,, just a bit more of the form you ignore , Like a horse running slow final quarters being dropped back in distance and then winning top sprint races .

You *******s present such a fanboy arguments its a joke .

wow you missed the whol point of my post what a surprise. i never said mosley looked great against floyd or mora. you keep making up excuses for why guys floyd fought looked bad. i'm saying you have to look at overall trends. when floyd fought mosley he was good but on the slide. when he fought ortiz he was good but vulnerable. when pac fought mosley he was shot. when pac fought cotto he was still very good. he wasn't shot because he lost 3 fights ago like you think.

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Yes, they couldn't come to an agreement the first time. Mainly because Floyd put that OST wrench .... but it is what it is.

Floyd was not going to take on Manny after that layoff. He stated on several occasions that he used Ortiz as a tuneup fight. There were no serious talks for the Manny fight then.

Still Manny was available and if 2 guys want to really fight then this fight would have been made already .... so we need to wait until they both really want to fight each other.

No, Floyd putting the OST wasn't a wrench. If it was a wrench Pac wouldn't have originally accepted it. But, it is what it is.

Even if Floyd felt he didn't need a tune and would have fought Manny in the long layoff. It would have done him no good. Because, Manny already had his eyes against JMM. The talk was already going on when he signed to fight Ortiz.

Yea of course when both want the fight the fight would made. What's your point? That's irrelevant to what I'm saying. Anyways, again Floyd in his last 2 fights fought the best available opponent. You can spin it anyway you want so it can fit your agenda. But, it doesn't change that Mosley and Ortiz were the highest rank WW's after Floyd and Pac.

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100% Agreed! Mayweather fights the best, real die hard fans know this is true. Its only the casual ******* fans that down plays Mayweather awsome undefeated record! Soon Pacpunk will be on the list of Mayweathers defeated oponants. I personally believe it will be a one sided beating , ending in a stoppage by Lil Floyd.

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boxing is all about perception here's a little test

rigo just destroyed ramos and everyone is high on him. let's say donaire beats him. donaire would get major props right.

now let's reverse the order of rigo's opponents. let's say rigo destroyed ramos but then fought cordoba and won by SD. now lets say donaire beat him. would donaire get as much props? highly doubt it. people would say oh he looke terrible against cordoba donaire cherry picked him.

the perception of rigo changed based on which person he fought last but he's the same exact fighter just every opponent has their own style. donaire should get just as much credit for beating rigo whether he fought ramos or cordoba last. that's why total resume matters more than just someone's last fight. you can have a bad fight but that doesnt mean you suck and you can have a good fight but that doesn't mean you are great. it's more about trends.

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wow you missed the whol point of my post what a surprise. i never said mosley looked great against floyd or mora. you keep making up excuses for why guys floyd fought looked bad. i'm saying you have to look at overall trends. when floyd fought mosley he was good but on the slide. when he fought ortiz he was good but vulnerable. when pac fought mosley he was shot. when pac fought cotto he was still very good. he wasn't shot because he lost 3 fights ago like you think.

This is a straight up lie1 Cotto still is not the same as he was before Margarita. Cotto took a killer beating from Tony, almost killed him, body and head damage. Physically,mentally,and spirtually killed him. Lets see Pac fight Canelo or Martinez, lol. We all know thats not gonna happen. Pacpunk is to afraid to face a real live wire. Pacpunk, the most over rated fighter since bruce lee.

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I would be highly disappointed in Pacquiao(once again) if he fought Canelo.

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boxing is all about perception here's a little test

rigo just destroyed ramos and everyone is high on him. let's say donaire beats him. donaire would get major props right.

now let's reverse the order of rigo's opponents. let's say rigo destroyed ramos but then fought cordoba and won by SD. now lets say donaire beat him. would donaire get as much props? highly doubt it. people would say oh he looke terrible against cordoba donaire cherry picked him.

the perception of rigo changed based on which style he fought last but he's the same exact fighter. donaire should get just as much credit for beating rigo whether he fought ramos or cordoba last. that's why total resume matters more than just someone's last fight. you can have a bad fight but that doesnt mean you suck and you can have a good fight but that doesn't mean you are great. it's more about trends.

Real boxing fans can see Rigo has true skill. Hes a two time Gold Medalist, over 400 amerture fights. He is 31 years old. He throws clean body shots, and hes a super counter puncher. He rarly gets hit so his defense is superb. I like donaire in this Match up, but I also understand that Donaire has never fought anyone like Rigo. Donaire is not use to having to worry about some countering his counters. In Rigo , donaire will have to worry.

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I would be highly disappointed in Pacquiao(once again) if he fought Canelo.

If pac was to fight Canelo , it would be a slaughter by Canelo. Three round fight son, and PACPUNK WOULD BE A BLOODY MESS.