Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Mayweather only fights the best fighters out there

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    This doesn't even make any sense. I always hear from Manny haters that they hate all the in fighting (Arum's stable) .... So just like Margarito faced Cotto, Manny would have faced Cotto back then and also Margarito as it would generate a lot of money and Arum would reap all the rewards due to the "in fighting".

    Back then the roadblock was Floyd not as much Arum because Margarito wanted to fight Floyd but Floyd refused NOT Arum. As for Cotto, once Cotto was ready, Floyd went on vacation.
    people forget floyd demanded 10 million to fight cotto. the same 10 million he got to fight delahoya. how the hell can he demand that much to fight cotto who was still at 140 i mean seriously you can't defend that. he didn't want the fight. he just wanted to leave top rank and cherry pick his own opponents. he even demanded 20 millino to fight delahoya when he was with top rank but after he left accepted 10 million. this should be prove that it was never about money to him only control over his opponents.
    Last edited by daggum; 01-29-2012, 02:18 AM.

    Comment


    • #62
      Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
      his last few fights

      Ortiz-wbc champ 24=10 years younger
      Mosley-Wbc champ-p4p#3
      Jmm-lw champ-p4p#2
      Hatton-p4p top 5 undefeated-former wba ww champ-lineal lww champ
      Oscar-wbc 154 champ
      Baldo-lineal ww champ


      i mean seriously how can you down this??
      I guess it all depends how you word it.

      Ortiz - inexperienced 140 lber, 1-1-1 in fights against decent fighters, knocked down in his last fight and a known quitter.

      Mosley- shot -won 2 of his last 6 fights.

      Jmm - much smaller, 37 yrs old. Never won a fight over 140 and only once above 135.

      Hatton - one dimensional pub brawler well past his best and never fought well at 147.

      ODLH - past his best. Lost to every good fighter he every fought.

      Baldomir - lol

      Comment


      • #63
        Originally posted by Dedication View Post
        Floyd has consecutively fought winners.

        Victor Ortiz > coming off a win over Berto
        S. Mosley > coming off a win over Magarito
        JMM > coming off a win over Juan Diaz, Casamayor and a SD with Pac (which many believe he won)
        Hatton > coming off a win over Castillo, Collazo and K. Tszya
        De La Hoya > coming off a win over Mayorga

        and Baldomir

        If you compare that to Manny Pacquiao, it's a completely different story,

        JMM > coming off a win over Katsidis and a UD over Juan Diaz (someone he knocked out before losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr) truth
        Mosley > coming off a draw to Mora and loss to Floyd Mayweather he shoulda win that mora fight but true
        Margarito > coming off a loss to Mosley lol true but he did have a win before PAC
        Clottey > coming off a loss to Cotto in a close fight..
        Cotto > coming off a loss to Margarito could've had bad wraps
        Hatton > coming off a loss to Mayweather Jr you forget he beat the magic man
        De La Hoya > coming off a loss to Mayweather Jr truth
        David Diaz is self explanatory haha
        JMM 2 > Split decision win which many thought JMM had won I don't see why people make such a fuss about these if he beat him that bad he woulda just got the W like morrales in their first fight
        Barrera 2 > coming off a loss to JMM truth
        I fixed some of it for you lol but to be honest they both fight who they know they can beat at this point but Floyd's does look better

        Comment


        • #64
          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          do you? mosley looked like garbage against mayorga, hatton got dummayed against collazo, ortiz lost to maidana and had a draw against peterson. your last fight doesn't tell the whole story. its a facade to trick simpletons. you have to look at trends not one offs. if you looked at roy jones after he beat lacy you would think he's back but was he............nope. just because a guy wins his last fight doesn't mean he's prime and just because he loses doesn't mean he's shot. cottos loss to margarito doesn't mean he's shot. be a better boxing fan please.
          He looked garbage against Mayorga did he the Mosley Manny ducked , so what are you saying he looked great against Floyd and greater against Mora , when your on the way down kid , you get progressively worse not better ,, sheessse and you talk form , dimwit lol .

          Hatton gassed against Collazo because he weighed 160 lbs , he said after the fight he would never ever be that heavy again he felt so sluggish , he also heated real bad ,,,,, part of the form you dont read or understand , just the win or loss is all you see just like I said in the opening post !

          Ortiz came of a FOY material fight after rising in weight , Roach said that Ortiz at 147 is a beast and gives Pac hell , also said that making 140 kills him ,,, just a bit more of the form you ignore , Like a horse running slow final quarters being dropped back in distance and then winning top sprint races .

          You *******s present such a fanboy arguments its a joke .

          Comment


          • #65
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            people forget floyd demanded 10 million to fight cotto. the same 10 million he got to fight delahoya. how the hell can he demand that much to fight cotto who was still at 140 i mean seriously you can't defend that. he didn't want the fight. he just wanted to leave top rank and cherry pick his own opponents. he even demanded 20 millino to fight delahoya when he was with top rank but after he left accepted 10 million. this should be prove that it was never about money to him only control over his opponents.
            You're just talking out of your ass daggum, I think you should stick to pointlessly hating on Calzaghe like an obsessed stalker, that's your niche here. Floyd Mayweather Jr. earned 25 million fighting De La Hoya, he left Top Rank because it was the best business decision to make (look how Manny is getting screwed), same reason Oscar left Top Rank.
            Last edited by _original_; 01-29-2012, 02:32 AM.

            Comment


            • #66
              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              You dont see the difference between Ortiz and Hatton ,,, Ortiz never really though he could win , Hatton thought he couldnt lose , to lose carrying those mindsets is apples and oranges .

              As far as dropping names like they are all the same why dont you stick to the people in question , no 2 fights are the same , no 2 fighters are the same , to try and win an argument based on what others do is idiocy , Hatton was mentally ***ed by Floyd , thats a fact !

              Dont talk weight kid when you mention WW and Hatton and Floyd is the same sentence ,,,,

              Digest this ,,, Hatton beat KT , Castillo and a host of others weighing 153 lbs on the night , he weight 153 fighting Floyd and Floyd weighed 152 ,,,,, FACT !

              Hatton weighed 160 against Collazo , thats the only time he fought a WW , based on fighting weight at the time of the Floyd fight they were JNR WWs fighting for a WW title .

              Floyd beat the breaks of JMM in second gear and JMM weighed the same as he did against Pac , read the form !

              Mosley was beat to the point he wanted to quit against Floyd coming of a Margo KO , Pac ducked Mosley until he was shot , and then looked exposed and frustrated against a shot fighter wanting to survive , and he did survive and easy .

              The rest of your post is just llke it started throwing everybody intro the same deal ,,, horses for courses kid , it aint all the same .
              What Hatton weighed has little bearing on where Hatton did well in his career. (see below)

              Mentally fcked after Floyd? Before losing to Manny, Hatton realized that he was NEVER king at 147 therefore the loss to Floyd. Hatton stated that at 140lbs he was still the KING and that Manny would lose bigtime. Both Floyd SR and Hatton felt quite confident.

              By the way, when Hatton beat Castillo, it was not the same Castillo anymore and they weighed in at 140. FACT!


              Floyd vs Marquez at 146 was a joke! Marquez NEVER fought at that weight. Nor at 140. It was uncharted territory for him.

              Mosley: Floyd himself said BEFORE the fight that his game plan would take into consideration his age .... Mosley was OLD and inactive .... all FACTS!
              Both Floyd and Manny went the distance with Mosley but for you, Manny who knocked Mosley down, was frustrated and exposed and Floyd beat Mosley up and wanted to quit. Talk about being biased!!! You don't remember Mosley running away from Manny and wanted to quit? I have never seen Mosley running for 12 rounds ....
              Last edited by ADP02; 01-29-2012, 02:50 AM.

              Comment


              • #67
                Floyd in his last 2 fights, has fought the best available opponent. Before that he wasn't doing that since Castillo.

                I don't blame him for 2007 though. That was just smart business fights that any fighter would have taken.

                Comment


                • #68
                  Floyd is so good, some people cant accept it. he makes more $, than any other boxer there. Just watch at all this pac-floyd situation from neutral view, and after awhile you'll see who doesn't want this fight. I don't blame pac, but he will lose by points against Floyd. this is just an opinion, but mark my words if they fight

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Floyd in his last 2 fights, has fought the best available opponent. Before that he wasn't doing that since Castillo.

                    I don't blame him for 2007 though. That was just smart business fights that any fighter would have taken.
                    not really .... he could have fought Manny instead but didn't. Floyd fought both of them at an opportunistic time in their career. Floyd knew that they both looked good on paper and that people only can remember their last fight but the reality of the matter was that one needed more seasoning and the other one was over-cooked!
                    Last edited by ADP02; 01-29-2012, 02:49 AM.

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      not really .... he could have fought Manny instead but didn't. Floyd fought both of them at an opportunistic time in their career. Floyd knew that they both looked good on paper and that people only can remember their last fight but the reality of the matter was that one needed more seasoning and the other one was over-cooked!
                      Well it's hard to fight someone when one person walks away from the table. It's not even about looking in their last fight. They were the best available opponents. You can cut it and spin it anyway you want for it to fit your agenda. But, they were the best available opponents.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP