Mayweather only fights the best fighters out there

[4Corners]

JMM is a cherry picked lw midget to Floyd,
Ortiz was a soft green fighter who just beat a paper champ for his first belt,
Hatton was damn overrated his whole career because he was allowed to fight a shot Tszyu in England under MMA RULES.

Oscar was a challenge so was Mosley but hell no, dude wasn't TOP 10 P4P let alone TOP 3,
stop reading Ring Mag buddy, especially when it comes to GBP fighters.

Mosley was #9 P4P after beating Margarito, who'd just beaten Cotto.

Marquez was a C-/C fight at the time, but given what Marquez just did to Pacquiao, does that dominant fight not look a little more legit??? I mean, Floyd shut him out.

No one can hate on Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Carlos Gerena, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo. The only people that hate on those fights are straight bias Floyd haters, nothing more or less. Phillip N'dou was like a what Ledwaba was to Manny. No one considered N'dou or Ledwaba as some of the best in the world, but they were legit fights. Decent opponents.

Floyd didn't do much at all at 140, but it's not his fault Tszyu lost to Hatton. I remember back in 2005 they were going to set up Mayweather-Tszyu but he lost to Hatton, who Mayweather fought in 07'. Judah was looked at as a big fight going into it before he lost to Baldomir, but Floyd still fought Judah and won, than fought Baldomir and won. Oscar at 154 was a risk, given he'd just KO'd Mayorga, and Floyd was small as hell for 154 lbs. Hatton, whether or not you thought he was overrated, was still a good pick. He was unbeaten, #8 P4P, prime, coming off good wins.

I already mentioned the Marquez fight earlier, and maybe not it looks better because Marquez just argubaly beat Manny at the exact same weight. Mosley was legit, he'd just KO'd Mayorga and Margarito, and was #9 P4P at the time. Ortiz was also legit, he'd just had 5 straight wins (1 over unbeaten Berto, regardless if you thought Berto was overrated) and a draw he should have won over Peterson, which now looks a lot better. Ortiz was young and agressive fighter, who had come into his early prime years, who has one of the most explosive offensive attacks in the sport. It's not Ortiz' fault that Maidana never gave him a rematch, which was his only real loss going into the Floyd fight. His other loss was a DQ where he hit the guy when he was on his knee or something. Ortiz' record really should have been 31-1-1 going into the fight, because he beat Peterson as well, I don't care what anyone says.

Would Cotto at 154 lbs be a risk or challenge??? Manny gets more credit because he did it first, but Floyd still gets his due, just like Hatton, only vice-versa obviously.

[D4thincarnation]

I think some of you guys need to look up "best" in the dictionary because it clear that some of you don't know what it means.

The last opponent of Floyd that this could be attributed to is Jose Luis Castillo at lightweight.

[AlwaysOnTop]

Has never fought the best since moving to light-weight and that is a fact.

Was Ortiz the best?
Was Mosley the best in 2010?
Was Marquez the best in 2009 at welter?
Was Hatton the best at welter in 2007?
Was Oscar the best light-middle?
Was Baldomir the best welterweight?
Was Judah?

It is no to all of these.

Tony and Cotto were never the best at any weight...

Oscar > Tony and Cotto combined..

[bojangles1987]

Tony and Cotto were never the best at any weight...

Oscar > Tony and Cotto combined..

Was Shane Mosley the best welterweight when Floyd fought him?

[D4thincarnation]

Tony and Cotto were never the best at any weight...

Oscar > Tony and Cotto combined..

Even part-time Oscar, 1 fight in 3 years before fighting Floyd, who couldn't throw the right anymore and then took a beaten from Forbes and then Pacquiao schooled him.

Yeah and thats is why Oscar chased a fight with light-weight Pacquiao, because he was too confident of beating Marg

[4Corners]

I think some of you guys need to look up "best" in the dictionary because it clear that some of you don't know what it means.

The last opponent of Floyd that this could be attributed to is Jose Luis Castillo at lightweight.

I don't get the "best" talk but whatever. Just look at Manny and Floyd's opponents, and what they'd done prior to fighting them.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis, Marquez II, Diaz, and Marquez III......those were the really notable fights for Manny where his opponents were coming off wins.

Morales I (loss), Morales II, Larios, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley......those were the fights where his opponents were coming off really definite recent losses. Some of his biggest wins in there.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis....those are the fights where you can without a doubt-100% say Pac's opponent was prime.

Morales I (draw) and Morales II are open for debate on whether or not Erik was prime, but by the second and third Morales fights, Erik himself was saying "Maybe I just don't have it anymore".

Marquez II, Morales III, Diaz, Larios, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey.....those opponents were all past their prime-still good at the time he fought them.

Marquez III, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Margarito, Mosley....those opponents were all past their prime completely.

Let's look at Floyd's.

G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.....those opponents were all coming off wins.

Corley and Judah were coming off definite recent losses.

Manfredy, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Corley, Judah, Hatton, Ortiz....those opponents were all in their prime when Floyd fought them.

G. Hernandez, Gerena, and Marquez.....those opponens were past their prime-still good when Floyd fought them.

Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Mosley.....those opponents were past their primes completely.




So if you look at both, Floyd definitely fought more people coming off big wins, than he did with losses, and he also fought more people that were still in their primes as well.

[bojangles1987]

I don't get the "best" talk but whatever. Just look at Manny and Floyd's opponents, and what they'd done prior to fighting them.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis, Marquez II, Diaz, and Marquez III......those were the really notable fights for Manny where his opponents were coming off wins.

Morales I (loss), Morales II, Larios, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley......those were the fights where his opponents were coming off really definite recent losses. Some of his biggest wins in there.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis....those are the fights where you can't without a doubt-100% say Pac's opponent was prime.

Morales I (draw) and Morales II are open for debate on whether or not Erik was prime, but by the second and third Morales fights, Erik himself was saying "Maybe I just don't have it anymore".

Marquez II, Morales III, Diaz, Larios, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey.....those opponents were all past their prime-still good at the time he fought them.

Marquez III, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Margarito, Mosley....those opponents were all past their prime completely.

Let's look at Floyd's.

G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.....those opponents were all coming off wins.

Corley and Judah were coming off definite recent losses.

Manfredy, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Corley, Judah, Hatton, Ortiz....those opponents were all in their prime when Floyd fought them.

G. Hernandez, Gerena, and Marquez.....those opponens were past their prime-still good when Floyd fought them.

Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Mosley.....those opponents were past their primes completely.




So if you look at both, Floyd definitely fought more people coming off big wins, than he did with losses, and he also fought more people that were still in their primes as well.

I hate when people list Hatton and Cotto among those coming off big losses. They also were coming off good wins. Say what you want about Malignaggi, he was one of the better fighters at 140 and Hatton destroyed him after Floyd. Cotto had beat Clottey, and if you don't think he won then Clottey was coming off a win and you can't say he was coming off a loss then.

There are also a lot of people who thought Morales won the second Barrera fight, so it's not like he looked terrible going into the first Pacquiao fight either.

[D4thincarnation]

I don't get the "best" talk but whatever. Just look at Manny and Floyd's opponents, and what they'd done prior to fighting them.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis, Marquez II, Diaz, and Marquez III......those were the really notable fights for Manny where his opponents were coming off wins.

Morales I (loss), Morales II, Larios, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley......those were the fights where his opponents were coming off really definite recent losses. Some of his biggest wins in there.

Sasakul, Ledwaba, Sanchez, Lucero, Barrera I, Marquez I (draw), Solis....those are the fights where you can without a doubt-100% say Pac's opponent was prime.

Morales I (draw) and Morales II are open for debate on whether or not Erik was prime, but by the second and third Morales fights, Erik himself was saying "Maybe I just don't have it anymore".

Marquez II, Morales III, Diaz, Larios, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey.....those opponents were all past their prime-still good at the time he fought them.

Marquez III, Barrera II, De La Hoya, Margarito, Mosley....those opponents were all past their prime completely.

Let's look at Floyd's.

G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.....those opponents were all coming off wins.

Corley and Judah were coming off definite recent losses.

Manfredy, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, Corley, Judah, Hatton, Ortiz....those opponents were all in their prime when Floyd fought them.

G. Hernandez, Gerena, and Marquez.....those opponens were past their prime-still good when Floyd fought them.

Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Mosley.....those opponents were past their primes completely.




So if you look at both, Floyd definitely fought more people coming off big wins, than he did with losses, and he also fought more people that were still in their primes as well.

The statement posed by the TS was, Floyd only fights the best fighters out there. This is clearly not the case, and in fact has not faced "the best fight" since Castillo.

Don't know why you feel you need to bring Pacquiao into every conversation about Mayweather.

[4Corners]

The statement posed by the TS was, Floyd only fights the best fighters out there. This is clearly not the case, and in fact has not faced "the best fight" since Castillo.

Don't know why you feel you need to bring Pacquiao into every conversation about Mayweather.

Just about every other poster did as well.

[AlwaysOnTop]

I hate when people list Hatton and Cotto among those coming off big losses. They also were coming off good wins. Say what you want about Malignaggi, he was one of the better fighters at 140 and Hatton destroyed him after Floyd. Cotto had beat Clottey, and if you don't think he won then Clottey was coming off a win and you can't say he was coming off a loss then.

There are also a lot of people who thought Morales won the second Barrera fight, so it's not like he looked terrible going into the first Pacquiao fight either.

Cotto didn't really beat Clottey...

Malinaggi????

LOL

Only a Floyd hater will call him decent comp..while slamming much BETTER fighters on Floyd's resume...