Cotto has a good chance of beating mayweather!

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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by akScoundrel
    So because Cotto lost to possibly the best offensive fighter the last millenium ever saw, yet still made it competetive the first half of the fight, he is a scrub now?

    So because cotto comfortably beats people he should comfortably beat, he is a scrub now?

    This is such a redundant argument to try and have. Castillo has no argument to make. Look at the scrubs he lost to.
    Not sure when I mentioned Cotto is a scrub but OK.

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    • ~AK49~
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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Not sure when I mentioned Cotto is a scrub but OK.
      Not specifically you, but many people like to dismiss the work that cotto put in. He takes one loss by the hands of possibly the best offensive fighter, and another by presumabely/probably a cheater, and he is overrated now. Then they try and look at his recent fights to try and knock himm when the fact of the matter is he comfortably beat people he should comfortably beat (being at an elite level). Not sayin castillo wasnt a good fighter, but i cant even pronounce some of the names he lost to, let alone know who they are.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by akScoundrel
        Not specifically you, but many people like to dismiss the work that cotto put in. He takes one loss by the hands of possibly the best offensive fighter, and another by presumabely/probably a cheater, and he is overrated now. Then they try and look at his recent fights to try and knock himm when the fact of the matter is he comfortably beat people he should comfortably beat (being at an elite level). Not sayin castillo wasnt a good fighter, but i cant even pronounce some of the names he lost to, let alone know who they are.
        You do understand a lot of people are going to call youa ***** for suggesting Cotto has a chance to beat floyd.

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        • Lords
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          #34
          Floyd might be just to fast for Cotto. Floyds speed with accuracy will win the fight for him.

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          • urrah
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            #35
            At the least Cotto has a better shot that Alvarez or Guerrero (or Morales ).

            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            Well neither of these are true. Cotto got cut against Clottey in the 3rd round...he won the 4th, dominated the 6th, and won the championship rounds. If anything that fight is a testament to his mental fortitude.

            Against Margarito the second time, yea he was slowing down but not in a way that indicated he was wilting by any means.

            I do agree overall though that Mayweather has more mental compusure facing adversity though.
            You're right that Cotto deserves credit in both those fights for pulling through when it appeared he was losing confidence, but if a fighter gets demoralised against the likes of Clottey or Margarito then Mayweather, who imo is one of the most psychologically draining fighters in boxing history, will likely make them quit on the stool.

            Cotto is my 2nd favourite active boxer(after Mayweather), he's humble and classy outside the ring, and inside the ring he is capable of both outslicking his opponents on the outside and getting the better of an all out slugfest. However, he's made it abundantly clear, in both word and action, that boxing is only a job to him, and that he won't put himself in excessive risk for any reason.

            Despite what many people think of Mayweather he is probably the mentally strongest fighter in modern boxing. He hardly blinked when he injured his hands against Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez , and calmly switched to southpaw against Castillo when his rotator cuff prevented him fighting effectively with his left. He didn't panic when Judah's slippery southpaw style got the better of him in the early rounds, he adjusted and went on to dominate the rest of the fight. Mayweather weathered early storms against much harder hitters in De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley and Ortiz, in each case managing to exploit their aggressiveness with pin point counter punching.

            You won't hear me say that Floyd is always composed in public, but when he steps into the ring his resolve and confidence is unshakable. My prediction is that Cotto, like many before him, will try to put the pressure on Mayweather early. After about two rounds, when the initial adrenalin rush wears off, Mayweather will systematically pick Cotto apart with the straight right. Cotto's jab, like De La Hoya's, might give Floyd pause for thought a couple of times, but Mayweather's timing and handspeed, combined with Cotto's suspect stamina and heart, will allow Mayweather to take over the fight between rounds 3 and 6. Cotto will not take any major damage, but Mayweather's dominance and Cotto's concern for his health will cause him to quit between sometime between the 9th and 11th.

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            • savorduhflavor
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              #36
              Originally posted by urrah
              At the least Cotto has a better shot that Alvarez or Guerrero (or Morales ).



              You're right that Cotto deserves credit in both those fights for pulling through when it appeared he was losing confidence, but if a fighter gets demoralised against the likes of Clottey or Margarito then Mayweather, who imo is one of the most psychologically draining fighters in boxing history, will likely make them quit on the stool.

              Cotto is my 2nd favourite active boxer(after Mayweather), he's humble and classy outside the ring, and inside the ring he is capable of both outslicking his opponents on the outside and getting the better of an all out slugfest. However, he's made it abundantly clear, in both word and action, that boxing is only a job to him, and that he won't put himself in excessive risk for any reason.

              Despite what many people think of Mayweather he is probably the mentally strongest fighter in modern boxing. He hardly blinked when he injured his hands against Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez , and calmly switched to southpaw against Castillo when his rotator cuff prevented him fighting effectively with his left. He didn't panic when Judah's slippery southpaw style got the better of him in the early rounds, he adjusted and went on to dominate the rest of the fight. Mayweather weathered early storms against much harder hitters in De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley and Ortiz, in each case managing to exploit their aggressiveness with pin point counter punching.

              You won't hear me say that Floyd is always composed in public, but when he steps into the ring his resolve and confidence is unshakable. My prediction is that Cotto, like many before him, will try to put the pressure on Mayweather early. After about two rounds, when the initial adrenalin rush wears off, Mayweather will systematically pick Cotto apart with the straight right. Cotto's jab, like De La Hoya's, might give Floyd pause for thought a couple of times, but Mayweather's timing and handspeed, combined with Cotto's suspect stamina and heart, will allow Mayweather to take over the fight between rounds 3 and 6. Cotto will not take any major damage, but Mayweather's dominance and Cotto's concern for his health will cause him to quit between sometime between the 9th and 11th.
              Agree with every word except the stoppage. I don't think the punishment will accumulate enough for him to stop Cotto but it will be a Mosley-like ending where if Cotto's corner threw in the towel I wouldn't argue too much.

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              • boxer101
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                #37
                Please someone wake him up before he dreams that Cotto knock Mayweather out.
                Originally posted by akScoundrel
                Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather.

                Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred.

                I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming.

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                • ~AK49~
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boxer101
                  Please someone wake him up before he dreams that Cotto knock Mayweather out.
                  Well, he probably has a better chance ko'ing him than winning on the cards...so go figure.

                  Atleast mayweather can say he had his mind on his jail sentence if he loses.

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                  • pdei47
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                    #39
                    Somebody take this kid off the fire, he's done!!!! ******* is a hellava drug!!!!

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                    • Pugilistic™
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      I don't think he can out will Mayweather....Floyd has some underrated traits that people don't give him credit for cuz' of his style of fighting. Yes he is very defensive minded. But, he can dig deep and dog it out in a fight if he needs to. His toughness and heart are very underrated.

                      I just don't see anyway how Cotto can beat Floyd now. The Cotto of a few years ago would have a much better chance. Now, I just don't see it.

                      And, I also disagree with Cotto being the most toughest/credible opponent to date for Floyd.
                      Nice post.

                      Totally agree.

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