Catchweight Biases Against Pacquiao

[vacon04]

It was a catchweight as it was a weight they agreed to but Manny had to move up 2 weight divions, you can't even count this against Manny. He moved up 2 divisions and everyone had him losing that fight just because of the size, it was big step up for Manny period.

Well Oscar was completely dehydrated and had to use an IV to get fluids, so I think this one is also against Oscar...

[CasualBoxingFan]

Well technically there's no such thing as a 154lb title. 154 is only the limit you can weight in that respected division which can be in between 148 - 154. People tend to forget that on fight night Marg weighed 163lbs. Pac fought a full fledge MW in that ring.

Putting a catch weight limit on the champ, for his title, lol
I say If it's a catch weight, you're doing it for the $$, leave the belts out of it.

and FFS, Pacquiao should just stay at 140 and fight someone good and on the rise.

[gquezvas]

I do not understand why if it's Pacquiao demanding catchweights people seem to ridicule him but clearly he's not the only one doing it.

Floyd's asking Martinez to drop to 150.
Cotto Asking Martinez to drop to 154.
Martinez asking Ward to drop to 164.

Why oh why?

Because most of those guys ask for it only one out of 10 fights. Pacquiao ask for it in every fight

[Mr. Philadel]

Manny can fight as many catchweight fights as he wants...but don't be putting straps on the line in the process...thats all!!....the first Cotto fight was at 145 BUT the initial weight offered was lower than that...Cotto and his peeps got Debo'd at the tables imo...then the Marg at 150 for the WBC strap was just out****inrageous...smh....what I don't get is what is their problem with Cotto being 100% as far as weight for a Pac fight?!?...why compromise his weight to satisfy Manny?!?....I don't get it!!!

[Teri]

Oscar/Pac was Manny moving up two weight divisions, I give no crap for this fight.

Pac/Cotto was Manny's first catchweight so I had no problems with it. BUT Manny try to *** Cotto down to 142 initially and it was for a title so it cheapens the win to me.

Pac/Marg at 150 **** Margarito its that simple, don't load your wraps and people can't take advantage of you its that simple. BUT it was for a title so again cheapens the win.

Pac/Marquez it was at 144 where Floyd was supposed to fight him, so again I could care less. BUT it was for a title so... you get the idea.

Most of them don't seem so bad, but jesus Manny that's a lot of catchweight fights and he's asking for another one!? This time making Cotto lose 7 pounds and he already beat the guy? The reason he gets **** is because with that many fights its now a trend, doing it a couple of times to make fights happen fine. But using them to get an advantage, that's straight up b*tch **** period. The divisions are there for a reason, it's not where Manny wants to fight just like Mayweather, Manny IS NOT bigger than the sport. Maybe he isn't trying to drain people but it looks that way, and it's not like Cotto is the one asking for the fight. Manny said I want Cotto but... only at 147, as if Cotto is in the same position as the last time? He's not with TR anymore, he actually has some options as he's showing, he'll just fight Floyd at 154. Even if Cotto loses Floyd's win >>> than Manny's just because it wasn't a CW for a title fight, that wasn't there to cheapen the win.

Manny first catchweight was oscar lorios he came up 10 pounds to fight manny manny is a bum

[urrah]

I do not understand why if it's Pacquiao demanding catchweights people seem to ridicule him but clearly he's not the only one doing it.

I don't have a problem with CW's provided that they're fair to both fighters. The problem I have with Pacquiao's CW's, and often the standard weight class he chooses, is that they give him an advantage over his opponents. Proof this is deliberate at 0:58 youtube.com/watch?v=rEnPEz_rSoU

To give a few examples.

Morales 2 & 3- Fought at 130 right after Morales had fought at 135.

De La Hoya- Fought at 147 which De La Hoya hadn't fought at in 7 years.

Cotto- CW of 145 when Cotto is a fairly decent sized WW.

Margarito- Fought at CW of 150 when Margarito had just fought at 154.

Marquez 3- Fought at CW of 144 when Marquez's fight against Mayweather had proven that he didn't cope well with the weight increase.

Floyd's asking Martinez to drop to 150.
Cotto Asking Martinez to drop to 154.
Martinez asking Ward to drop to 164.

Why oh why?

Each of these situations is completely different to Pacquiao (more like Roach) forcing his opponents to CW's or weights they're not comfortable with.

1. Martinez actually offered to drop to 150, Mayweather is just taking him up on it.

2. 154 isn't a CW it's LMW (light middleweight), and Martinez has said that he is comfortable dropping back to 154 from 160.

3. Ward fights at 168, Martinez fights at 160, 164 is enable the fight to happen without giving either fighter an advantage.

Hope this clears up a few things.

[MJ223]

Guys like Henry Armstrong did it to even the playing field..... Pacquiao/his team seem like they do it to gain an advantage

[Phil Ivey]

Cause he has won titles whilst using a catch weight....

[jrosales13]

Has Pac been the only fighter to win a title in a catch-weight? I can't remember any other catch-weight fight where the challenger beat the champion...The ones title catch-weight fights I remember the champion retained his belt.

[frosty-g]

because him and roach are utterly disgusting with it and unashamed about it. they're not the only ones at it, but they do it as a matter of course and not just to make an otherwise unworkable fight happen.