Pound-for-Pound: The Fifty Greatest Boxers Of All-Time

[IronDanHamza]

Sure I see what you mean but they should get props as well for their title defenses considering it's not an easy task to do for several years. Some may have better defenses than others and I understand that.

See that's where you're twisting it. You're coming off as if I'm saying Oscar is better than Hopkins because of it. But logic is that not many have been able to accomplish that feat even today. Am I right or wrong there? He's not the greatest champion of all time but he deserves to be an ATG.

It's not an easy task but it doesn't make you a great fighter automatically.

Almost no one has been able to do it but again that doesn't necessairly make him a great fighter.

He is a 6 weight world Champion but his resume is not that strong. And not ATG worthy either, IMO.

[IMDAZED]

Oh Lord. Let it go. Oscar is NOT an ATG.

[Rassclot]

Jack Dempsey wasn't over the hill?

He got KOed in the first fight by an already over the hill Dempsey. Then the long count.


2nd fight he ran to a decision. Last fight of Jack Dempsey's career.


You give Trevor Berbick should be ranked ahead of him. He beat Muhammad ALI! OMG

[Mr. Fantastic]

It's not an easy task but it doesn't make you a great fighter automatically.

Almost no one has been able to do it but again that doesn't necessairly make him a great fighter.

He is a 6 weight world Champion but his resume is not that strong. And not ATG worthy either, IMO.

I never said it did. I said you should get props for it. Many people discredit stuff like that.

It does make him a great fighter considering the resume he has. Now if he had like a very weak resume, sure I'd be more understandable but it's not the case bro.

It's your opinion and I disagree. I'm not here to change your mind. Honestly saying DLH's resume is not that strong makes everyone's resume look weak cause I can't think of many recently with an equal or stronger resume.

[IMDAZED]

I never said it did. I said you should get props for it. Many people discredit stuff like that.

It does make him a great fighter considering the resume he has. Now if he had like a very weak resume, sure I'd be more understandable but it's not the case bro.

It's your opinion and I disagree. I'm not here to change your mind. Honestly saying DLH's resume is not that strong makes everyone's resume look weak cause I can't think of many recently with an equal or stronger resume.

His best win is Fernando Vargas/Ike Quartey. Not like he was beating prime HOF'ers here.

[IronDanHamza]

Jack Dempsey wasn't over the hill?

He got KOed in the first fight by an already over the hill Dempsey. Then the long count.


2nd fight he ran to a decision. Last fight of Jack Dempsey's career.


You give Trevor Berbick should be ranked ahead of him. He beat Muhammad ALI! OMG

Jack Dempsey was past his best, yes. I didn't deny that.

I'm laughing at you saying that's the only good fighter he ever fought.

[Mr. Fantastic]

His best win is Fernando Vargas/Ike Quartey. Not like he was beating prime HOF'ers here.

He didn't lose to the Jesse James Leijas either.

[intoccabile]

which boxing enthusiast argues that reberto duran is the 4th greatest fighter of all time??????????

please show & tell.

Dave Carlson - 7.
Top five: Robinson, Armstrong, Pep, Louis, Ali.

Burt Sugar - 8.
Top 5: Robinson, Armstrong, Pep, Louis, Greb

Andrew Eisele - 6.
Top 5: Robinson, Ali, Armstrong, Louis, Pep

Kieran Mulvaney (ESPN) - 6.
Top 5: Robinson, Ali, Armstrong, Louis, Pep

Ring Magazine - 5
Top 5: Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Louis, Duran

Teddy Atlas - 8
Top 5: Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Leonard (Benny), Langford

Tracy Callis - Not top 10
Top 5: Fitzsimmons, Robinson, Dempsey, Langford, Mitchell

George Blair - No list, quoted for saying Duran was top 10.

Luckett Davis - No list, quoted for saying Duran was top 10, "possibly" 5 in 98.

Monte Cox - 6
Top 5: Gans, Robinson, Greb, Langford, Louis
(Monte Cox is VERY respected)

Max Kellerman - 7
Top 5: Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Greb, Langford

Jimmy Connors - 6

Look, I can go on and on all day.
I stand corrected, He is not top 5 by the majority, but damn close. And so, I don't see why he is too low on this persons list who is probably not as intelligible as the above mentioned.

[BennyST]

lol @ gene tunney


only win is over a completely over the hill Jack Dempsey.

I know right! Who the hell are Harry Greb, Georges Carpentier, Tommy Loughran, Tommy Gibbons, Battling Levinsky and the rest? Nobodies!

[IMDAZED]

He didn't lose to the Jesse James Leijas either.

No, he didn't. So that means he's an ATG?