Pacquiaos on the decline, agree?

[PACsmash]

IKR, the second you dont have that desire like you use to you have declined.

Floyd may have slipped alittle physically also, but i believe his desire went up once he became jealous of Manny. And especially after Manny won FOTD.

Doesn't have desire doesn't mean declining to me. Declining to me is slowing down, is not sharp anymore, gasses out early, etc. all those would fall in the declining catagory to me. Manny just needs some excitement to give him that hunger again and I believe Floyd is the one that can do it for him.

[Double_L]

IMO the only thing that has declined with Pac is his killer instinct and the cooperation of his legs-- leg cramps in training and supposedly even during fights.

While those are pretty big issues I think a fight with Floyd will bring out the best in him, and that we'd see a near-prime version of Pac. (Then afterwards we'll probably hear the cramps excuse again lol)

[Chups]

He's a spent 33 years old...............what do you expect. Plain and basic common sense.

[SoulByThePound]

the explosiveness isn't the same...the killer instinct is gone...the slippage is pretty clear

maybe he should stop fighting people he likes lol, i thought he was gonna make out with clottey, with marquez he was confused, i think he didn't want to hurt mosley?

[-Kev-]

Yeah because he looked the same against Marquez as he did in 2008 and 2004, he's on the decline.

And the only people who thought he was gonna KO Mosley was Roach and the *******s. Nobody is knocking Mosley out, he's gonna retire without a KO loss, like Hopkins, and excluding a corner stoppage, Glen Johnson. Some guys just can't be knocked out no matter what, Mosley is one of them.

I say he just sucks but had great match making that finally backfired.

[Prime 407]

Like any elite fighter, they get used to the good life and lose the hunger to compete like they did when they were coming up and looking to prove themselves. Manny fights at his best when he has a point to prove i.e. he wanted to show that he could destroy cotto coz everyone said cotto would destroy him, same with delahoya. Manny fought with no desire against Mosely until the dodgey KD call by the ref in round 10 that finally fired Manny back up to his old self.

The Marquez fight was a combination of JMM being very crafty and Pac's motivation not being there... I don't think Pac is on the decline physically (although there is some evidence his accuracy is not as good as it used to be) but mentally he's a congressman now, living it up with all the rich socialites in the Philippines.

[Prime 407]

Yeah because he looked the same against Marquez as he did in 2008 and 2004, he's on the decline.

And the only people who thought he was gonna KO Mosley was Roach and the *******s. Nobody is knocking Mosley out, he's gonna retire without a KO loss, like Hopkins, and excluding a corner stoppage, Glen Johnson. Some guys just can't be knocked out no matter what, Mosley is one of them.

I say he just sucks but had great match making that finally backfired.

Your a ****** hater, you can't get to the top of the sport and "suck". Let's see if Floyd could destroy Cotto the way Manny did or bust up a much bigger Margarito... sure Floyd would win but in the most boring manner possible.

[-Kev-]

Your a ****** hater, you can't get to the top of the sport and "suck". Let's see if Floyd could destroy Cotto the way Manny did or bust up a much bigger Margarito... sure Floyd would win but in the most boring manner possible.

Cotto the B fighter at 145lbs, and a shot to pieces Margarito at 150lbs


My ribs.

[-Kev-]

How about David Diaz at 135lbs? You ******ed haters! Titles in 8 weight classes baby.

[Prime 407]

Cotto the B fighter at 145lbs, and a shot to pieces Margarito at 150lbs


My ribs.

Your opinion but still, Floyd couldn't do to either of those guys what Pac did, so what does that say about your boy?