Pacquiaos on the decline, agree?

[ИATAS]

Age is relative. But...let's see.

First you invent a BS reason I never said because...?

Now you're putting further words in my mouth.

Do you have a point, Nata*******? Or just feeling sore because I don't believe Pacquiao has slipped physically? Why not just ask me why I feel the way I do (about both Floyd and Pac)...rather than being just another b*tch made *******?

nata******* how cute, that's almost as creative as nasa000.

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy, that's all, move along if you wish.

[IMDAZED]

nata******* how cute, that's almost as creative as nasa000.

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy, that's all, move along if you wish.

Well yes, you can point out hypocrisy when you invent reasons for the other side to your liking

[Doctor_Tenma]

Don't know if anyone here remembers but Solis gave Pacquiao serious problems, Manny bailed himself out with the same ol' jab jab straight left hand. Think he needs to resort to doing that when all else fails. He looked ****** trying to land the counter right hook against Marquez in the 3rd fight, he only landed a few of those and only one of them got Marquez's attention.

[SonnyDempsey]

Actually, both Floyd and Manny are on the decline in terms of physical abilities.

[PACsmash]

I wouldnt say he's on the decline, but more like he's not hungry like he used to and that's perfectly fine. The man is entering in his mid 30s, have money, living a good life, who can blame him? He said so himself that he has accomplished more than he ever thought he could in boxing. That right there is a sign that he's not hungry anymore but speed, explosiveness is still there IMO.

[Oxn]

I wouldnt say he's on the decline, but more like he's not hungry like he used to and that's perfectly fine. The man is entering in his mid 30s, have money, living a good life, who can blame him? He said so himself that he has accomplished more than he ever thought he could in boxing. That right there is a sign that he's not hungry anymore but speed, explosiveness is still there IMO.

IKR, the second you dont have that desire like you use to you have declined.

Floyd may have slipped alittle physically also, but i believe his desire went up once he became jealous of Manny. And especially after Manny won FOTD.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Just recently I re-watched Whitaker vs. Policarpo Diaz, Diaz moved around the ring, didn't do much of anything, Whitaker stood composed and cut the ring nicely. Pacquiao on the other hand looks lost when movement is applied against him, it wasn't only the Mosley fight Mak, watch the 2nd half of the Cotto fight, the man simply does not like movement, you could even see it in his expression and at times he resorts to standing in the middle of the ring, indirectly asking his opponents to fight.

go watch the Sasakul fight and tell me PAC didn't use more aggression to handle 'movement'...

[Mojita]

IKR, the second you dont have that desire like you use to you have declined.

Floyd may have slipped alittle physically also, but i believe his desire went up once he became jealous of Manny. And especially after Manny won FOTD.

His desire? Lol. Hes probably not that hungry as he was younger but you cant tell me he looks the same as around the cotto fight. He doesnt. And dont give me the excuse of mosleys or marquez styles, that had todo something about but not completely. These guys are old and past prime. His legs which are his foundation of his offense are clearly going. If they werent he would had a field day on Mosley or Marquez running or not. He would been too elusive and frustrating to make him look bad. They wouldve folded and been dominated in a more impressive fashion.

Im not trying knock on him, but its true. hes not going to stay super forever.

[Doctor_Tenma]

go watch the Sasakul fight and tell me PAC didn't use more aggression to handle 'movement'...

Similar to the Solis fight, he did have weapons to bail himself out against movement, though he still looked uncomfortable. Now he doesn't seem as stubborn enough to keep trying the jab jab straight left hand, in the bold, I have and I do agree. Thing is, aggression ain't gonna continue to do it for him, time he learns how to cut guys off and fight in the pocket more.

[Oxn]

go watch the Sasakul fight and tell me PAC didn't use more aggression to handle 'movement'...

exactly!!!

Manny use to leap in regardless of movement. Even with the master counterpuncher Marquez I and II he was leaping in and taking risk.

Against Shane, he was overly cautious. He couldve leaped in also to get a crack at Shane, but he was anticipating getting countered.

He just isnt the same anymore, mentally