Pacquiaos on the decline, agree?

[Weebler I]

Decline? I don't think so, he just faced his nemesis in another atg in Marquez.

People say he should've KO'd Mosley, well he put him down in the 3rd and Shane has never been knocked out.

The next fight is where we'll find out if he's in decline (unless its Lamont Peterson, who he'd eat alive).

[Chups]

Decline? When was he on the ascent? Pac is a product of careful matchmaking over his last 4-5 fights, that is it. The same Pac that fought David Diaz, is the same Pac you see today. Pac looks ****ty when he fights people who are not shot to ****, old or slow. Being in the ring with a real superb technician like JMM showed many just how limited Pac's skillset really is.

He's obviously declining due to his PED use. It's taking it's toll on his body....anybody who doesn't see this is an idiot.

[Ringlife]

Well, the guy is a busy guy now but he still finds a way to win but yes he is on the decline.

[Hallaqsillaq]

Floyd fans just dont want to admit Manny is on the decline so that they can claim Floyd beat Manny during his prime when they fight. When obviously its 2 years too late.

So? Floyd's not prime either.

[edgarg]

Uh, yeah, try reading the part in my post where it says "excluding a corner stoppage".





And tell me how Mosley vs Forresst ended again? Remind me please, was it a KO?

If you can't knock a guy out after hurting him that bad, then you're gonna need to shoot him down in order to stop him.

And what refs would have stopped that, the Calzaghe-Manfredo ref?

I won't bother going back to look for it, I'll take your word. Just was to quic k to answer without reaing it properly.

[straightleft]

Decline? NO! He just stayed away from good Boxing and Counter Punchers since his Second Fight With JMM...the 3rd fight with JMM exposed that

Don't matter what weight the make the fight...JMM WILL ALWAYS HAVE PACQUAIO NUMBER and I think any fight with good footwork and BOXING SKILLS will give Pacquiao a tough time or Beat Him!

This is why I say Pacquiao was MANUFACTURED BY BOB ARUM! Arum did a BRILLIANT JOB building him up into a Superstar by putting him in with Guys whom style they knew he would look good against...which is ALL FLAT FOOTED FIGHTERS who have no type of foot speed or lateral movement or head movement

Of Course a lot of fans won't like hearing that...BUT IT IS THE TRUTH! Why do you think people blame Mosley and Clottey for making Pacquiao look bad...that tells you that "HE NEEDS TO FIGHT AGAINST CERTAIN STYLES TO LOOK GOOD"

Just admit you are an idiot sir. Floyd fellow American the Boxing Writers of America voted Pac as Fighter of the Decade instead your coward idol. You know why even though Floyd has all the skills to beat Pacquaio? Because Pac actually beat the hell out of Cotto and Margarito while your boy faked his retirement to duck these two! Pacquaio did better much better beating their common opponents without god given like Floyd superior skills against Oscar, Hatton and Mosley plus without using the forearm chokes, elbow punches, weight cheating, sucker punch, making them move up. Floyd all talk Pac a proven better fighter than Floyd.

[..David..]

Disagree

I think its a combination of things ... a lot of this criticism comes from the JMM fight, and JMM its an awesome fighter that KNOWS how to fight pacquiao he just has that experience.

The other thing its he hasnt KOed his opponents like before, but he is been fighting bigger guys each time and they tend to be more resistant, also when u are destroying your opponents, they usually start to become more defensive and dont trade so much, i mean after the hatton fight everbody took note not to trade ******ly with him.

.... i would favor him almost over anybody right now... anyone but Floyd... i really think floyd would toy with him even if i dislike his attitude i have to say his craft its ahead of anyone else rightnow.

[The Gambler1981]

If you really want to get down to the fact of the matter yea he is, he is a fighter that started small and his whole game is based off his athleticism.

That is not a recipe for aging well~

He is still fine until proven otherwise, but he is certainly on the decline and that slope can get real slippery in a hurry.

[GOD-FR33]

"Mosley was suppose to be a ko. Marquez wasnt suppose to see 12. Though i give Marquez the benefit that hes something esle.

His legs appear tobe going, barely see the in out side to side. Hes walking a straight line. He hasnt been impressive. One bad night ? Sure, two? Uh oh."


He wasn't suppose to K.O. Mosley. Last time I checked, you don't K.O. Mosley. I will say that if Mosley didn't know how to survive, he definately would have been stopped. But he's much bigger than Manny and knows how to hold. As far as Marquez, we have to give him credit for putting up such a great fight. he's a Hall Of Famer and that's what they do. LoL. Manny still won the fight at about mabe 80-85% for whatever reason. I think he wanted to beat Marquez in a convincing way so bad, he probably overtrained a bit. He didn't look bad, he just didn't dominate. If you look at his footwork and defense, he proved that he was the better fighter between them. He made Marquez miss a lot. Although the more eye-catching SINGLE shots were landed by Marquez, he still got out-thrown and out landed. Just look at his face after.

I do agree with you that his next appearance is crucial. But don't worry. Manny has at least two more high-level fights in him. His back is sort of against the wall after that performance against Marquez and I think Bradley is the style challenge he needs. He cares about what people are saying after his fights so nomatter who the opponent is, look for him to be on a mission.

[IMDAZED]

he clearly didnt have the killer instinct against margarito because if he did he would have never looked at the ref to stop the fight. He clearly would have finished off margarito.

Just look at the first barerra fight, he was abusing mab as much as margarito but he never took his foot off the gas pedal.

Fame, fortune, being a congressman, Sleeping in silk sheets gets has CLEARLY diminished his fighting instinct and spirit.

People forget they used to call this guy The Destroyer.

You act like he began looking at the ref during round four or something. He began looking at the ref in the championship rounds, when it was clear he wouldn't drop Margarito and was just beating him to death. Literally.