Harris offers to step in!

[elveiel]

I dont know...maybe theyre tired of Warren and Hatton trying to call all the shots? Perhaps theyre concerned about getting a fair decision in the very popular Rickys back yard? Who knows? I just dont think that Ricky is good enough to sit in England and demand that everyone come to him. And, all boxers, all over the world, end up coming to America to fight at some point (most of them do anyway) so why should he be any different>
For the record, I dont think that Lacy is the ****. He's good, but not properly tested enought to be the "****"...just like Ricky.

One of the problem is that Hatton is such an entertaining fighter, the non boxing fans turn up and pay good money to see him, a lot dont even care who he fights.

Warren is a tough guy to deal wth, the man is very clever so i can imagine people dont like to negotiate with him but i think a lot fighters blame him because they know they can get away with it.

The location shouldnt be an issue, fighters dont often get robbed in the UK, the only time i watched a guy come over here and get robbed the UK fans were more pissed than the fighter!! were not like the Germans and in general we dont like anyone winning when they dont deserve too. I consider Arum to be the most intelligent US promoter and he wants Cotto to fight in the UK!! He knows Hatton can make a lot of money here and there's no risk of a unfair decision.

Oh yeah, Hattons already fought at Madison Square Garden and Detroit, i think he wants to fight in Vegas next because its the home of big fights but its got finacial sense. He's like any parent, he has to put food on the table first and live his dream second.

[Sir_Jose]

hahaha

Warren is alot of thing clever is not one of them.

If you actually believe for a second Bob Arum would let Miguel Cotto go over to Europe I got some ocean front property in Arizona I want to sell you.

[elveiel]

US fighters dont need to leave the country to prove themselves because this is where the best fighters in the world are.

I think i'm going mad, why does fighting in the US prove anything? isnt the opponent the proving factor?


What would make you respect Hatton more??

If Hatton fought and beat Tszyu in the UK

OR

If Hatton fought and lost to Tszyu in the US

[Sir_Jose]

I think i'm going mad, why does fighting in the US prove anything? isnt the opponent the proving factor?


What would make you respect Hatton more??

If Hatton fought and beat Tszyu in the UK

OR

If Hatton fought and lost to Tszyu in the US

pay attention.

Hatton would get respect if he actually decided to come out from under Frank Warren's skirt.

This is where the best fighters in the World are. Your two biggest stars of the last 15 years Lennox Lewis and Naseem Hamed also knew that. Thats why they came here and had all there big fights here.

Thats why guys like MAB, Morales, Castillo, Frietas, Tito, Cotto and Marquez all come here.

Thats why Pac came here.

[dansweeney]

you have to go where the best fighters and most exposure are, and that is in the us, Tzsyu knows this or he would be fighting in australia, hatton needs to learn this

[elveiel]

hahaha

Warren is alot of thing clever is not one of them.

If you actually believe for a second Bob Arum would let Miguel Cotto go over to Europe I got some ocean front property in Arizona I want to sell you.

Warren was born poor, he grew up in a flat on a rough estate and somehow he became a multi millionaire living in a mansion once owned by a king, he sounds like a real dumbass to me!!

Arum will do whatever makes him the most money.

[Sir_Jose]

Warren was born poor, he grew up in a flat on a rough estate and somehow he became a multi millionaire living in a mansion once owned by a king, he sounds like a real dumbass to me!!

Arum will do whatever makes him the most money.

wow good for him

James Prince was born poor and is now ****** rich, but that doesn't make him a good boxing promotor.

Frank McCourt was born poor and now has **** loads of money, but that doesn't make him a good Baseball owner does it?

Donald Sterling came from nothing, but that doesn't make him a good Basketball owner does it?

[elveiel]

pay attention.

Hatton would get respect if he actually decided to come out from under Frank Warren's skirt.

This is where the best fighters in the World are. Your two biggest stars of the last 15 years Lennox Lewis and Naseem Hamed also knew that. Thats why they came here and had all there big fights here.

Thats why guys like MAB, Morales, Castillo, Frietas, Tito, Cotto and Marquez all come here.

Thats why Pac came here.

I dont dispute the fact America is big on boxing, i know most fighters go there to make it but i dont see why a fighter would leave his home, his training camp and fans behind to travel to America and get paid less money.

I want Hatton to go to America to fight again, but i dont want to watch him on TV at 4am in the morning if he's not fighting a decent opponent in front of a half full arena. Every figher you mention went to America to gain more money, if Hatton can get the bigger fights and money then lets see him in Vegas!!

[elveiel]

wow good for him

James Prince was born poor and is now ****** rich, but that doesn't make him a good boxing promotor.

Frank McCourt was born poor and now has **** loads of money, but that doesn't make him a good Baseball owner does it?

Donald Sterling came from nothing, but that doesn't make him a good Basketball owner does it?

I dont really know who these people are, i but i'm assuming they did something right to become so rich, apart from signing Ricardo Williams.

I also assume these guys made money from other sources before trying there hand in sport.

[HayeFan]

Yes a "Valiant Effort" is to be aplauded if it is just that a valiant effort. There is a difference between pushing an all time great to the limit and being run over. The fighters you named were run over.


"Ex Champs" last I checked Ben Tackie and Ray Olivera were never champions

The Phillips' loss to Mitchell was FAR from him being 'run over'. Tackie is Tackie, he's a puncher and as such rarely wins by decision. Urkal is a technician, not a brawler you cannot compare both of their 'losses' as they are a different breed of fighter.

Ex-champs - Define Champion. They've both held lightly regarded belts at different stages of their respective careers. Urkal by the same token that you're using to judge champion status wasn't either unless you hold the European title in high regard? LOL

No you dont. Harris is regared as top 5 in the division by everyone.

By everyone except the people at large, Harris is amongst one of THE most unpopular and unseen fighters with a title in your country. What would a win over Harris do for Ricky's career outside of forums and circles of hardcore boxing fandom such as this one??

The answer is very little. Harris's plight is a worthy cause but at the same time an empty one for any fighter looking to move forward. Fair enough, another belt would be 'nice for Ricky to hang over his mantlepiece, but it's all about names at this stage, multiple belts aren't the necessity they once were.

Would you like to explain how this country has turned there back on Harris?

Hate to break it to you, but a fighters woth is messured in skills not drawing power.

yah, by not fuc*king giving a **** whether he fights or not LOL

The poor bastard had to go to Germany to defend his title because nobody in the US gave a **** about the outcome.

And I hate to break it to you but a fighter's worth IS measured in drawing power in the real world. These are PRIZE fighters and in this day and age that prize is now the dollar sign as opposed to the belt around their waist. Ordinarily the two should go hand in hand, but Harris is a point in case of a Champion that nobody cares enough about to watch, let alone remember or celebrate.

US fighters dont need to leave the country to prove themselves because this is where the best fighters in the world are.

as far ass all these "offers" are concerned most of them are just pure bull**** and rumors

Yeah, that's the way it normally works fella, not in Harris's case though. A Stateside Hatton Harris fight means peanuts in Gate. Harris vs anyone means jack **** in the US, which is why he's pandering open letters in a bid to get Hatton to fight him in Manchester for a third of the price that they offered Tszyu, a non-american fighter LOL