Harris offers to step in!

[HayeFan]

What exactly is it that you see in Harris? Do you honestly feel he'd take Hatton? How much of Hatton have you seen?

Boxing's a funny old game, and for all I know Harris might beat him. I've seen a lot of both fighters though, which is why I'm fairly confident that Hatton would eat him alive

[Knicksman20]

I hear what you're saying, but you cant name Urkal as a fighter on par with Tackie, Oliveira or Phillips without telling me who he beat? who'd he actually beat?

The point is Urkal would beat the hell out of them now just as Hatton did. Philips in his prime would've destroyed Hatton. Even the Philips that lost to Ike Quartey would've destroyed Hatton. Theses fighters are a shell of their former selves.

[elveiel]

Harris has a great reputation in the boxing world, the same cannot be said for Frank Warren and Ricky Hatton. Warren is shamelessy protecting Hatton trying to **** with Harris and even demaning Tszyu come come Manchester to fight Hatton.

Hatton needs to grow a pair of balls, stop being a ***** and fight outside of Europe. Just the thought that an un proven protected fighter with nearly 40 pro fights could think they could dictate terms to fighters like Tszyu and Harris just shows how dilusional they are.

I think Harris's reputations bad, i dont often hear a good word said about him.

I don think there demanding Tszyu go to Manchester, read the below from the Tszyu's manager, it look like both camps will benifit from the Manchester location, IMO it doesnt matter where you fight as long as you get no favour from the judges/ref.

Any fight with Hatton is likely to take place in the early hours of the morning to allow for US television scheduling, and Watt told Australia's Daily Telegraph: "At the end of the day the Manchester fight comes down to economics.

"The promoters are making a lot of additional money for themselves by staging the fight there. They get pay-per-view revenues out of the UK, which will be enormous, and the MEN Arena in Manchester will be chock-a-block.

I'd forget the 38 fight record of Hatton anyway, Hattons only had about 20 fights since he was 21(same as Cotto), if Hatton stayed in the ams longer like Cotto his progress wouldnt be an issue.

[elveiel]

The point is Urkal would beat the hell out of them now just as Hatton did. Philips in his prime would've destroyed Hatton. Even the Philips that lost to Ike Quartey would've destroyed Hatton. Theses fighters are a shell of their former selves.

I have seen Urkal fight many times so i have formed my own opinion of him, its very different to yours.

We will have to agree to disagree because our opinions conflict so much we wont find a netural ground.

[HayeFan]

The point is Urkal would beat the hell out of them now just as Hatton did. Philips in his prime would've destroyed Hatton. Even the Philips that lost to Ike Quartey would've destroyed Hatton. Theses fighters are a shell of their former selves.

nah man, the point is that you cant name a single meaningful fighter that Urkal has gotten under his belt, ergo you CANNOT say to me that Urkal is more significant a win than the afore mentioned old-timers.

Add to that your conjecture about whether or not Phillips COULD HAVE beaten Hatton at one stage of his career and it spells bull****.

Could have, would have, should have, until Harris fights Hatton you have no idea how it'll play out.

Oh, and by the way, Hatton offered to fight Tszyu wherever, whenever. Those factors are dictated by economics, dont blame Hatton for Showtime's call.

Harris IS a viable opponent, but he isn't an attractive proposition in a division littered with stars far greater than his own.

[Sir_Jose]

Urkal was a great amature a Olympic Silver Medalist if im not mistaken and gave Kostya Tszyu an all time great a hell of a fight. Thats why he has the repuation he has.

Yes he is a much more significant win. There si nothing significant about fighting someone like Vince Phillips who is flat out shot.

[elveiel]

Urkal was a great amature a Olympic Silver Medalist if im not mistaken and gave Kostya Tszyu an all time great a hell of a fight. Thats why he has the repuation he has.

Yes he is a much more significant win. There si nothing significant about fighting someone like Vince Phillips who is flat out shot.

Is there any doubt that Hatton would give Urkal a good beating?? I dont think Hatton could lose that fight, Urkal hasnt even got a punchers chance.

Hatton vs Harris would be interesting, i know Harris is a solid fighter but he's not worthy of a world title for beating guys like Hurtardo and Urkal.

[tracylee]

Upon reading that the Tszyu-Hatton superfight has appparently fallen through, WBA super lightweight king "Vicious" Vivian Harris has spoken on the subject. "Kostya did the right thing. As a fellow world champion, he has earned his way to the top. He should be respected. I understand completely how he feels, as Warren/Hatton showed the same disrespect to me and my belt in negotiations earlier this year" said the 26-year-old champion. "Kostya deserves that kind of money, and at 35 years of age, he's paid his dues. Let me take care of Hatton first, as we're both 26, I have the world title already, Hatton should fight me now and Warren should show champions some respect, he can't protect Hatton forever and at this rate he's damaging Hatton's reputation. People are laughing at Hatton over here (USA). Kostya is a true champion and I respect him, I'd love to fight him and I am willing to go through Hatton first. The winner of Harris-Hatton can fight Tsyzu in a unification superfight" Harris also said he'd fight Hatton in Manchester for a third of what Tszyu turned down (reportedly Tszyu turned down a $5 million offer). "Just get the money right, and I'll go right into Ricky's backyard and fight him, I'd even fight him in his living room, if Warren shows a little respect."
Thursday, December 30 2004

Not only is Vivian blunt with it, he's dead on where severl of these comments are concerned! Many of us do consider Ricky a joke now, and it's all cause of Warren protecting him AND demanding the kind of money he does ..all at the same time! I fully understand in England he's the "****" (pardon my crudeness, but he makes me irritable!!) but over here in the states he's just another "maybe, might be, wont ever know..."...until he leaves Warrens protected area. It's gotten to the point where I dont want to watch him fight ANYWHERE...let alone in England. I just get tired of hearing how great he is, and how he will fight anybody, but then he never leaves home to do it. He wants the big money....well, from what I understand, that big money is here in Vegas and Atlantic City

[Sir_Jose]

Is there any doubt that Hatton would give Urkal a good beating?? I dont think Hatton could lose that fight, Urkal hasnt even got a punchers chance.

Hatton vs Harris would be interesting, i know Harris is a solid fighter but he's not worthy of a world title for beating guys like Hurtardo and Urkal.

If Emon McGee could drop and rock Hatton then yes I would say he has a chance.

If Harris doesn't deserve it then what does that say about Hatton?

[HayeFan]

Urkal was a great amature a Olympic Silver Medalist if im not mistaken and gave Kostya Tszyu an all time great a hell of a fight. Thats why he has the repuation he has.

Yes he is a much more significant win. There si nothing significant about fighting someone like Vince Phillips who is flat out shot.

Tszyu has already admitted to under par performances against Urkal and Tackie. Urkal may have caused him a few problems but he beat him nonetheless.

If you want to go down the route of comparing valiant efforts, how about Phillips losing a very close mixed decision to Sharmba Mitchell in the fight preceding his bout with Hatton.

What about the fact that Oliveira got beaten by Tackie only a year after he'd whupped Harris?

Or that the 'back to back' losses that Tackie suffered pre-Hatton were to Sharmba Mitchell and Kostya Tszyu, the 2 top fighters in the world at that time. He'd beaten Teddy Reid on top of Oliveira before taking on those elite guys.

To me all of that makes little difference, I just dont see Urkal as any more of a significant win.