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  • elveiel
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    #71
    I'm logging off now guys so i'll speak to you all again!!

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    • HayeFan
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      #72
      ya, me too. It's almost 3am here.

      I'll check your reply tomorrow Jose. I'll also remember your name when Ricky faces his first 'live' opponent

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      • Sir_Jose
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        #73
        Originally posted by HayeFan
        The Phillips' loss to Mitchell was FAR from him being 'run over'. Tackie is Tackie, he's a puncher and as such rarely wins by decision. Urkal is a technician, not a brawler you cannot compare both of their 'losses' as they are a different breed of fighter.

        Ex-champs - Define Champion. They've both held lightly regarded belts at different stages of their respective careers. Urkal by the same token that you're using to judge champion status wasn't either unless you hold the European title in high regard? LOL




        By everyone except the people at large, Harris is amongst one of THE most unpopular and unseen fighters with a title in your country. What would a win over Harris do for Ricky's career outside of forums and circles of hardcore boxing fandom such as this one??

        The answer is very little. Harris's plight is a worthy cause but at the same time an empty one for any fighter looking to move forward. Fair enough, another belt would be 'nice for Ricky to hang over his mantlepiece, but it's all about names at this stage, multiple belts aren't the necessity they once were.




        yah, by not fuc*king giving a **** whether he fights or not LOL

        The poor bastard had to go to Germany to defend his title because nobody in the US gave a **** about the outcome.

        And I hate to break it to you but a fighter's worth IS measured in drawing power in the real world. These are PRIZE fighters and in this day and age that prize is now the dollar sign as opposed to the belt around their waist. Ordinarily the two should go hand in hand, but Harris is a point in case of a Champion that nobody cares enough about to watch, let alone remember or celebrate.



        Yeah, that's the way it normally works fella, not in Harris's case though. A Stateside Hatton Harris fight means peanuts in Gate. Harris vs anyone means jack **** in the US, which is why he's pandering open letters in a bid to get Hatton to fight him in Manchester for a third of the price that they offered Tszyu, a non-american fighter LOL
        No Phillips was run over and for anyone to even suggest otherwise is flat out laughable.

        Funny I dont ever remember saying Urkal was a champion...but I do remember YOU saying Olivera and Tackie were.

        Well tell me then who "The people" have in the top 5 at 140?

        What would it do for his career? GIVE HIM CREDABILITY thats what. "Another Belt" yeah I guess the WBU is held in real high regard over in England huh*rolleyes*

        You need to get it through your thick Ricky Hatton nuthugging skull. Just because a fighter is not a draw does not mean that he's not good. Bernard Hopkins is not a draw I guess he sucks too huh, Same with Winky Wright, Hell lets throw Vitali in that mix too.


        Guess what Rickky Hatton in the US vs anybody means?...you guessed it jack ****. Hate to break it to you, but nobody gives a damn about England. He comes here and proves himself or continues to be mocked by the American Boxing press.

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        • SweetScience
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          #74
          IFhappens...Harris KO1.

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          • elveiel
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            #75
            Originally posted by jose
            No Phillips was run over and for anyone to even suggest otherwise is flat out laughable.
            Vince Phillips has never been a slick skillful boxer, he always been a strong durable puncher and he was exactly the same against Hatton, I'm not saying he's brilliant, I'm not saying he's at his best but he is a still a good test, especially when he's loaded up with steroids.

            What would it do for his career? GIVE HIM CREDABILITY thats what. "Another Belt" yeah I guess the WBU is held in real high regard over in England huh*rolleyes*
            The WBU means **** in the UK, its just a minor title that brings in extra revenue from the part time boxing fans.

            The WBA, WBC and WBO dont mean much at the moment though,

            Hatton went from WBC number 1 contender to 3 so they could set gatti up with an easy fight with number 2 contender Branco, Why didnt the WBC make Hatton number 2 if they wanted Gatti to be number 1?? why would a fighter who hasnt fought in over a year and who's last opponents record was 6-9-1 be number 2 contender?? WBCorrupt isnt a credible title if you win like that.

            And winning a world title against Hurtardo and Pinto isnt credible, i think Harris and Cotto are very good fighters but its silly to make them world champions when neither have beaten a current top 5 fighter.

            Tszyu won his IBF title against Zab Judah, that makes it a credible title

            Originally posted by Jose
            You need to get it through your thick Ricky Hatton nuthugging skull. Just because a fighter is not a draw does not mean that he's not good. Bernard Hopkins is not a draw I guess he sucks too huh, Same with Winky Wright, Hell lets throw Vitali in that mix too.
            You shouldnt call the guy a nuthugger because he doesnt agree with you Jose, that ****s silly because we all favour certain fighters! keep it

            IMO Harris is a very good fighter, he's world class but he doesnt do himself any favours, he said Tszyu was scared when he got in the ring after the Mitchell fight, thats not going to get him a shot at Tszyu, thats not going to make him fans.

            Originally posted by Jose
            Guess what Rickky Hatton in the US vs anybody means?...you guessed it jack ****. Hate to break it to you, but nobody gives a damn about England. He comes here and proves himself or continues to be mocked by the American Boxing press.
            The American boxing writers care enough to keep mentioning his name! The American boxing press mock everyone who's doesnt fight often in the US, thats ****ing lame!! I notice the US press never complained when Mitchell fought the same level of opponent every fight!! I dont see why a fighter needs to fight in a certain location but i'd love to see Hatton go to the US and fight the best US 140 pounder Mitchell.

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            • elveiel
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              #76
              Originally posted by SweetScience
              IFhappens...Harris KO1.
              Harris vs Hatton??

              Thats a bold statement so you must really think Harris would win, i'm glad because you wont mind betting 5,000,000 points on it!!

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              • dustymoo
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                #77
                I think we all know the WBC ranking system is a joke! Requirements being; over 35, big draw, American & ****!

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                • RobbieD
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                  #78
                  A third of $5 million? Of course he'll fight Hatton for that. He said he'd fight him for $750,000 months ago. The problem is that he isn't even worth that. Hatton is the draw, Harris is nothing on the world scale. Kosta Tyszu at least has the U.S exposure and hype to at least take the fight to PPV in England. Harris ain't got that.

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                  • RobbieD
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jose
                    hahaha

                    Warren is alot of thing clever is not one of them.

                    If you actually believe for a second Bob Arum would let Miguel Cotto go over to Europe I got some ocean front property in Arizona I want to sell you.
                    Arum said on TV that he'd LOVE to bring Cotto to Manchester. So either he means it or he is a freaking liar. Take your time chosing while looking for that ocean front property in Arizona.

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                    • elveiel
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by RobbieD
                      Arum said on TV that he'd LOVE to bring Cotto to Manchester. So either he means it or he is a freaking liar. Take your time chosing while looking for that ocean front property in Arizona.
                      Yes but Arum was lying yesterday and today he's telling the truth!!

                      That Arum quote is a classic.

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