Harris offers to step in!

[tracylee]

You're absolutely right, Hatton may never be appreciated in the US if he doesn't start taking 'the' big fights.

But the thing is, you've got umpteen other fighters in the division with a much more accepted reputation win or lose, than Harris.

It'll be a big name fighter next, or you'll probably see Hatton ditching Warren, believe it or not the guy has a boxing brain and he knows what the fans around the world have been saying.

Even if he loses you WILL be seeing him in a big fight this year.

It's kind of ironic that you guys are sticking up for a fighter that your own country has turned it's back on.

Hmmm, am I sticking up for a fighter, or putting down a fighter here? I said that I'm tired of hearing how wonderful Ricky is (and yes, I've seen him fight) yet he will not cut the apron strings of Warrens and come over here; and he demands all that money. Its not so much about Harris as it is about Ricky being fabulous...only at home.

[elveiel]

I fully understand in England he's the "****" (pardon my crudeness, but he makes me irritable!!) but over here in the states he's just another "maybe, might be, wont ever know..."...until he leaves Warrens protected area. It's gotten to the point where I dont want to watch him fight ANYWHERE...let alone in England. I just get tired of hearing how great he is, and how he will fight anybody, but then he never leaves home to do it. He wants the big money....well, from what I understand, that big money is here in Vegas and Atlantic City

I feel the same about US talents, Lacy's a good example because i cant see why Americans think he's the ****!?!

The purses are normally higher in the US but the money is far better for Hatton in the UK at the moment, thats why he fights here everytime. I'm at the point were i would give up a ringside seat and i'd even go to the airport to wave him off so people stop talking about location.

Americans are obviously going the defend their home fighters, and the UK will defend there's but i cant see why anyone would think its Hatton's fault for the break down in fights?

Harris wanted more money and the fight in the US, but then fought in Germany for half the ammount Warren offered.

Mitchell was quoted saying he would make it financially difficult for Hatton to get a fight with him if he beat Tszyu

Gatti turned down $3mil and faced Dorin instead.

Pinto got a injury.

Hatton/Warren probably the reason why the Cotto fight hasnt happend, both have been quoted as saying the want Cotto at a later date.

[tracylee]

Hatton is actually a big fan of Cotto's hahahaha!

It's a possibility, his name's been mentioned and if the Tszyu fight has fallen through, I'd much rather see Hatton in with Cotto, a fighter who's going places as opposed to a stagnant fighter like Harris.

Okay, this throws me...if Harris is so stagnant, and youre convinced that Hatton can beat him, then why not put them in the ring...if only to shut Harris up? Not to be contrary, but you do seem a little concerned that Harris could beat Hatton, or I think you'd want Ricky to whip the ass til the mouth shuts

[HayeFan]

Hmmm, am I sticking up for a fighter, or putting down a fighter here? I said that I'm tired of hearing how wonderful Ricky is (and yes, I've seen him fight) yet he will not cut the apron strings of Warrens and come over here; and he demands all that money. Its not so much about Harris as it is about Ricky being fabulous...only at home.

Assuming Hatton does face a big name this year, whether it be Tszyu, Harris, Mitchell, Cotto, whoever ... if he fights them in the MEN as opposed to say MSG, are you saying that you still wont be happy?

[tracylee]

I feel the same about US talents, Lacy's a good example because i cant see why Americans think he's the ****!?!

The purses are normally higher in the US but the money is far better for Hatton in the UK at the moment, thats why he fights here everytime. I'm at the point were i would give up a ringside seat and i'd even go to the airport to wave him off so people stop talking about location.

Americans are obviously going the defend their home fighters, and the UK will defend there's but i cant see why anyone would think its Hatton's fault for the break down in fights?

Harris wanted more money and the fight in the US, but then fought in Germany for half the ammount Warren offered.

Mitchell was quoted saying he would make it financially difficult for Hatton to get a fight with him if he beat Tszyu

Gatti turned down $3mil and faced Dorin instead.

Pinto got a injury.

Hatton/Warren probably the reason why the Cotto fight hasnt happend, both have been quoted as saying the want Cotto at a later date.

I dont know...maybe theyre tired of Warren and Hatton trying to call all the shots? Perhaps theyre concerned about getting a fair decision in the very popular Rickys back yard? Who knows? I just dont think that Ricky is good enough to sit in England and demand that everyone come to him. And, all boxers, all over the world, end up coming to America to fight at some point (most of them do anyway) so why should he be any different>
For the record, I dont think that Lacy is the ****. He's good, but not properly tested enought to be the "****"...just like Ricky.

[HayeFan]

Okay, this throws me...if Harris is so stagnant, and youre convinced that Hatton can beat him, then why not put them in the ring...if only to shut Harris up? Not to be contrary, but you do seem a little concerned that Harris could beat Hatton, or I think you'd want Ricky to whip the ass til the mouth shuts

Economics, the more appealing the opponent is to the US market, the more salable Hatton becomes, which in turn means bigger fights.

Fighting Harris is still an option, but it isn't a fight that will really do an awful lot to sell Hatton to the casual boxing fan who bolsters PPV takings, know what I mean?

Cotto, Tszyu, Mitchell, Mayweather, Gatti, etc. - A win over one of those guys would LAND HAtton in the US consciousness. A win over Harris doesn't carry the same momentum.

[tracylee]

Assuming Hatton does face a big name this year, whether it be Tszyu, Harris, Mitchell, Cotto, whoever ... if he fights them in the MEN as opposed to say MSG, are you saying that you still wont be happy?

My happiness has nothing to do with Ricky Hatton. And I thought I made it pretty clear early on that I think that if Ricky wants the big money and the big names, then he should be willing to come to them...not always vice versa. Why does he need that English padding behind him with any of these big names if he's that good? Why always fight in the MEN? This is where the money is...everybody knows that. He's fought plenty in his own backyard...but if he wants, no insists, on fighting all the big names, then he cant expect them all to come to him..he aint that good.

[tracylee]

Economics, the more appealing the opponent is to the US market, the more salable Hatton becomes, which in turn means bigger fights.

Fighting Harris is still an option, but it isn't a fight that will really do an awful lot to sell Hatton to the casual boxing fan who bolsters PPV takings, know what I mean?

Cotto, Tszyu, Mitchell, Mayweather, Gatti, etc. - A win over one of those guys would LAND HAtton in the US consciousness. A win over Harris doesn't carry the same momentum.

I get your point..but I think for some of us it's gotten to the point where we want to see if he will actually come here or not. If he keeps waiting, I dont know how much drawing power he's gonna have, regardless of who he's fighting (but I can only speak for myself here guys )

[Sir_Jose]

Hatton fans are getting to be a joke.

You've missed my point entirely, what i was trying to point out was that a valiant 'losing' effort doesn't constitute accrued kudos.

Yes a "Valiant Effort" is to be aplauded if it is just that a valiant effort. There is a difference between pushing an all time great to the limit and being run over. The fighters you named were run over.


"Ex Champs" last I checked Ben Tackie and Ray Olivera were never champions.

But the thing is, you've got umpteen other fighters in the division with a much more accepted reputation win or lose, than Harris.

No you dont. Harris is regared as top 5 in the division by everyone.

It's kind of ironic that you guys are sticking up for a fighter that your own country has turned it's back on.

Would you like to explain how this country has turned there back on Harris?

Hate to break it to you, but a fighters woth is messured in skills not drawing power.

I feel the same about US talents, Lacy's a good example because i cant see why Americans think he's the ****!?!

US fighters dont need to leave the country to prove themselves because this is where the best fighters in the world are.

as far ass all these "offers" are concerned most of them are just pure bull**** and rumors.

[HayeFan]

My happiness has nothing to do with Ricky Hatton. And I thought I made it pretty clear early on that I think that if Ricky wants the big money and the big names, then he should be willing to come to them...not always vice versa. Why does he need that English padding behind him with any of these big names if he's that good? Why always fight in the MEN? This is where the money is...everybody knows that. He's fought plenty in his own backyard...but if he wants, no insists, on fighting all the big names, then he cant expect them all to come to him..he aint that good.

Cotto's said that he'd go to Manchester to fight Ricky, cuz he's such a badass.

Tszyu wants Australia, which is fair enough, but a non-starter as far as Showtime is concerned due to time issues, meaning that it comes down to whether Australia or the UK wins in terms of potential gate.

Mitchell needs a comeback, and has already fought at MEN, so it makes sense to stage it there.

Mayweather and Gatti would no doubt insist on Hatton going Stateside, which is the point at which your grumblings should manifest themselves. It's only really then that it should become an issue. If Ricky has those fights in his sights, offers are made and he isn't willing to travel, I'll give up on him myself.

Personally I'm more concerned about seeing him in the big fights as opposed to where they take place.