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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Postthat same style STILL can't convincing dominate the counter puncher in Juan Manuel Marquez and Pac is supposed to be able to overwhelm Floyd with that style? Floyd is most accurate counter puncher in the sport. No triangle theory but reality. Floyd beats Pac up. Comparing Mayweather to Margarito, Cotto and JMM is a bad mistake. Floyd is not like any of them style wise and technically he is sound. Roach is blatantly saying that he doesn't have a plan to beat Mayweather and here you are getting mad at people that say Pac don't have a chance?
roach said it will be a challenge, of course it would, floyd is brilliant in the ring but he does have disadvantages.
there was no comparing may to marg or cotto, the dude said pacs style is made for floyd, i mentioned the style where he beats dudes to a pulp, has more speed and power than floyd....
you know what negates a counterpuncher who is inactive?
a counter puncher who gets out sped, and hit hard taking 4 to give 1
two years ago floyd picks manny apart, today, floyds legs arent there, he has rust, he does not fight in combinations...
jmm is a tough fight for pac..
what happened to floyd in his prime when zab took the first 4-5 rounds knocking him down?
what happen to a prime floyd fighting a near 35 dlh and going split decision?
what happened to a prime floyd who arguably lost to jlc?
what about floyd who almost knocked ktfo by a 38 year old inactive of 18 month shane mosley?
what about a prime floyd who got rocked and buckled about by chop chop?
my point is that floyd wasnt invincible in his PRIME. he is no longer in his prime
things are different.
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Originally posted by Check_hooks View PostI see u Roach with that reverse psychology but I highly doubt floyd reads online articles because he doesn't even know what "allude" meansOriginally posted by Larryx2011 View Postwhat??Mannys the one who can't allude a damn right hand
Hi.
To allude is to imply.
To elude is to evade.
I'd normally ignore shit like that, but this all redounds DIRECTLY
upon the post you're responding to. To wit, if you and Floyd Jr.
have comparable English language skills, then he wouldn't know
what allude means either.
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Originally posted by horge View PostUhmmm.. Larry?
Hi.
To allude is to imply.
To elude is to evade.
I'd normally ignore shit like that, but this all redounds DIRECTLY
upon the post you're responding to. To wit, if you and Floyd Jr.
have comparable English language skills, then he wouldn't know
what allude means either.
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floyd vs ortiz, round 2 at 2:10 what happens when floyd whiffs a lead right and his entire right leg comes forward in front leaving him entirely out of position lounging and vulnerable to a pac straight left hand or combination?
same round, 2, 1:58 ortiz against the ropes and floyd whiffs yet again another right hand this time looking very rusty and off balance. very very vulnerable for pacs blazing left hand and combos...
another thing, pac is a master at spacing, he never holds or grabs he is always in the pocket and can respond with punches...
see small examples i have shown fanatics do not look for and refuse to see
now floyd was vulnerable in numerous situations against ortiz, ortiz....not pac.
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Originally posted by amayseng View Postfloyd vs ortiz, round 2 at 2:10 what happens when floyd whiffs a lead right and his entire right leg comes forward in front leaving him entirely out of position lounging and vulnerable to a pac straight left hand or combination?
same round, 2, 1:58 ortiz against the ropes and floyd whiffs yet again another right hand this time looking very rusty and off balance. very very vulnerable for pacs blazing left hand and combos...
another thing, pac is a master at spacing, he never holds or grabs he is always in the pocket and can respond with punches...
see small examples i have shown fanatics do not look for and refuse to see
now floyd was vulnerable in numerous situations against ortiz, ortiz....not pac.
Last edited by Larry the boss; 01-07-2012, 09:27 PM.
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beginning round 4 ortiz and floyd,
floyd throws 16 punches opening the round, LANDING NONE
then throws a combination finally, 13 punches, lands 1 maybe 2, ortiz fires
back with a right hook and floyd immediately gets on his horse and out of
the way bailing out, he will not fight fire with fire, he does not trade he bails
before the head butt and point deduction ortiz landed straight left at 21 seconds and then a hook that buckled
floyds legs sending him flying across the ring into the ropes
my point is that floyd is not invincible and ortiz did quite well against him
until the blatant and ****** head butt...
against floyd you have to be composed at all times
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