Comments Thread For: Roach Admits Mayweather's Style a Tough Hit Pacquiao

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Roach should retire ahead of Pacquiao.

[MadGuerreroMax]

Only Reason why his style is tough b/c you have to get him with a one hit KO.... He is already given matches b/c judges, promoters, and fighters are already paid to give him matches.... Castillo beat his ass the first time they fought.... Undefeated my A.S.S. More like a Chavez Jr....

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It's such easy work that Money asked for extra special test that he never asked for in his previous 40 fights and retired to avoid instead of making $50 to $60 million for so called "EASY WORK" who turns down that money or retires or request extra special test to make $50 to $60 million for so called "EASY WORK"???? Even, Floyd ain't selling that BS!!!!!

Hey! Like I said when I opened up my post. This is my opinion. Manny Pacquiao is good but not great. He can dominate guys who come forward with pressure because of his speed but against a boxer who uses patience and movement, then Pac looks lost. Whatever with the blood test issue because if you were really dealing with how that whole episode went down then you would have already known that Roach said any kind of tests Mayweather wanted wasn't an issue. I wish Floyd would have just fought Pac without the tests but am sure that there would have been another excuse of something. Like when they put the 10MIL penalty clause in the contract because Roach thought Floyd couldn't make 147 anymore because of him coming in overweight for the catch weight fight with Juan Manuel Marquez but Floyd agreed. You are coming down on Floyd for asking for the tests but as easy as it was for him not to ask for them. It was just as easy for Pac to agree to them. Right or wrong?

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every fighter has bad nights. every fighter has a thorn in its side that i difficult for them...like Mosley and Forrest....Forrest was hard for mosley for some reason even throughout the amateurs. A fighter is always only good as his last fight. Thats what im taught...everyday! JMM was manny's last fight and evryone feels he wont hold up to Mayweather. lol
the fact is Mayweather has never ..EVER foght a fighter like Manny! So thats not a tailor made opponent. Thats a dangerous opponent !

Whatever man. You believe what you want to believe and I'll do the same but fact of the matter is that Floyd boxed circles around a guy that Pac after YEARS of fighting. With weight, age and experience at the higher weight classes on his side STILL couldn't convincingly beat JMM AND this was supposed to be the "NEW & IMPROVED Manny Pacquiao" with the right hand. Pac looked worst then he did the first two times because Marquez decided to box Pac instead of brawling with him, giving up opportunities to Manny. That is the real of it. Manny is good but he ain't a fighter that Floyd style wise can't handle. Manny couldn't even adjust to JMM counter punching style and all of a sudden Floyd never fought anyone like Pac? Please.

Floyd is better than Juan Manuel Marquez in every category and that is saying a lot because Juan Manuel Marquez is a GREAT fighter and one of my favorites in the sport. All these years that Pac had to get ready for JMM and Roach STILL couldn't seal the deal AND team Pac really thought that he would KO JMM early and most likely so did you and the rest of his fans except me and few others. I called against Pac with Oscar, Cotto and Hatton because I never thought Pac was anything special skill and technical wise but he beat them guys cause they were/are brawlers who rarely box and just come forward. Everybody knew Pac was going to beat them 3 but no one really gave JMM to be competitive and I did. Before the fight, Pac has a score to settle and it is personal to the point not even GOD can save him. After the fight. Pac had cramps and the Pinoy people should support him or else they're not Pinoys? Dude is a fraud. Arum built up Pac to look great but he ain't.

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Only Reason why his style is tough b/c you have to get him with a one hit KO.... He is already given matches b/c judges, promoters, and fighters are already paid to give him matches.... Castillo beat his ass the first time they fought.... Undefeated my A.S.S. More like a Chavez Jr....

Floyd beat Castillo in the "IMMEDIATE" rematch while Pac had "YEARS" of rematches and STILL hasn't beaten JMM convincingly. The whole professional sport of boxing thinks Pac lost the 3rd fight. Even most of the Pinoys had to give it up to the point Pac had to plea with them to say he won?

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Whatever man. You believe what you want to believe and I'll do the same but fact of the matter is that Floyd boxed circles around a guy that Pac after YEARS of fighting. With weight, age and experience at the higher weight classes on his side STILL couldn't convincingly beat JMM AND this was supposed to be the "NEW & IMPROVED Manny Pacquiao" with the right hand. Pac looked worst then he did the first two times because Marquez decided to box Pac instead of brawling with him, giving up opportunities to Manny. That is the real of it. Manny is good but he ain't a fighter that Floyd style wise can't handle. Manny couldn't even adjust to JMM counter punching style and all of a sudden Floyd never fought anyone like Pac? Please.

Floyd is better than Juan Manuel Marquez in every category and that is saying a lot because Juan Manuel Marquez is a GREAT fighter and one of my favorites in the sport. All these years that Pac had to get ready for JMM and Roach STILL couldn't seal the deal AND team Pac really thought that he would KO JMM early and most likely so did you and the rest of his fans except me and few others. I called against Pac with Oscar, Cotto and Hatton because I never thought Pac was anything special skill and technical wise but he beat them guys cause they were/are brawlers who rarely box and just come forward. Everybody knew Pac was going to beat them 3 but no one really gave JMM to be competitive and I did. Before the fight, Pac has a score to settle and it is personal to the point not even GOD can save him. After the fight. Pac had cramps and the Pinoy people should support him or else they're not Pinoys? Dude is a fraud. Arum built up Pac to look great but he ain't.

Not sure what you are trying to say here, Pac is a fraud?
I think it's a matter of styles with JMM. JMM is a fine boxer and had Pac's number like Ricardo Mayorga inexplicably had Vernon Forrest's number back in the day. Shane Mosley for whatever reason didn't though, so it's a matter of the way guys fight each other.
Mayweather capitalized on JMM's style. I don't think JMM fought well at all that night and I think it's equal parts Mayweather, equal parts JMM's training for that fight.

I am on record as saying JMM would give Pac hell because he's been waiting years for this fight and was going to bring everything to the table so that one really isn't a surprise.


I think yes Floyd would box circles around Pac but there will be moments of danger when Pac let's the left hand go. Once Floyd figures that part out and gets through it, he'll probably sweep the second half of the fight.


That doesn't make Pac a fraud, it's just Mayweather is the best, bar none.


And as far as the fight itself goes, mark my words, the hold up is not going to be testing, or Floyd being in jail and blah blah blah, the issue is going to be money now, I can see the money part screwing up the whole works.

Both guys will be asking for the moon and someone is gonna have to figure out how to pay them.

Arum is of course not going to make it easy, nor is Al Haymon.

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Not sure what you are trying to say here, Pac is a fraud?
I think it's a matter of styles with JMM. JMM is a fine boxer and had Pac's number like Ricardo Mayorga inexplicably had Vernon Forrest's number back in the day. Shane Mosley for whatever reason didn't though, so it's a matter of the way guys fight each other.
Mayweather capitalized on JMM's style. I don't think JMM fought well at all that night and I think it's equal parts Mayweather, equal parts JMM's training for that fight.

I am on record as saying JMM would give Pac hell because he's been waiting years for this fight and was going to bring everything to the table so that one really isn't a surprise.


I think yes Floyd would box circles around Pac but there will be moments of danger when Pac let's the left hand go. Once Floyd figures that part out and gets through it, he'll probably sweep the second half of the fight.


That doesn't make Pac a fraud, it's just Mayweather is the best, bar none.


And as far as the fight itself goes, mark my words, the hold up is not going to be testing, or Floyd being in jail and blah blah blah, the issue is going to be money now, I can see the money part screwing up the whole works.

Both guys will be asking for the moon and someone is gonna have to figure out how to pay them.

Arum is of course not going to make it easy, nor is Al Haymon.

The reason why I say he is a fraud is because he was built up to be this much improved fighter who was a major threat to Floyd Mayweather Jr but it turned out that he was the same fighter who had just been matched up well style wise. The only reason they took the JMM fight is because they saw what Floyd did to JMM and thought he would not be effective at 144 AND they wanted to try to out do Mayweather instead of fighting him. Bob Arum built up a lot of Manny's hype off of using Mayweather's name and that Floyd was scared of Pac but never intended to actually make the fight happen. That's a fraud. Pac is a good fighter but if his team would have focus more on improving him instead of match making him and trying their hardest to make a fighter greater then Floyd. Then Pac would have become great skill/technical wise because he has the tools but his flaws haven't been fixed AT ALL.

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If Floyd's ring IQ is 200 (genius), then Manny's is 110 - 120. Floyd is naturally bigger, still faster (arguably), more powerful. His style is pure poison for Manny who adjusts poorly. Floyd KOs Manny during the middle rounds or Roach throws in the towel. I'd be surprised as heck if it went the distance. Competitively I'm not hip on this fight at all. Never have been. Would much rather see May vs Martinez. But business-wise, that's not gonna happen.

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The reason why I say he is a fraud is because he was built up to be this much improved fighter who was a major threat to Floyd Mayweather Jr but it turned out that he was the same fighter who had just been matched up well style wise. The only reason they took the JMM fight is because they saw what Floyd did to JMM and thought he would not be effective at 144 AND they wanted to try to out do Mayweather instead of fighting him. Bob Arum built up a lot of Manny's hype off of using Mayweather's name and that Floyd was scared of Pac but never intended to actually make the fight happen. That's a fraud. Pac is a good fighter but if his team would have focus more on improving him instead of match making him and trying their hardest to make a fighter greater then Floyd. Then Pac would have become great skill/technical wise because he has the tools but his flaws haven't been fixed AT ALL.

You can't help team Pac for thinking that he was improved as he beat Mosley pretty handily in his last fight, so they thought what they were doing was working.
Turned out JMM was the same ole ornery sob he was in the first two fights.

[alembic]

Actually a genius has an IQ of 150. Anyway, Floyd's ring IQ is still 200 in my books. And I'm not a Floyd fan in particular either. He just gets it done.