Vitaly and steroids

[edgarg]

why does JAB have a vitali picture in his avatar

what is going on..... did someone hack his account?

my mind= blowned

I've been told that because JAB, a full blown Klitschko denigrator, and Freedom, a Klitschko supporter, were made stop fighting each other, and as punishment the moderator made JAB
display a Klitschko picture.

[Superflo777]

you skipped over it idiot...........look. i will make it EASY on you. you don't even have to look up the things that i told you to look up (because obviously you ignored it & only cared about trolling my post)


look @ this link

"klitschko will not accept povetkins drug test demands"


http://www.boxingscene.com/klitschko...demands--28116

this is from a radio interview of vitali giving his reasons of why his younger brother will never agree to blood test. vitali is CLEARLY against blood test in that interview.........

now heres the kicker.

wlad later on said that he's WILLING to take the blood test. to see this, look here.

"klitschko is not against blood test"

http://www.boxingscene.com/klitschko...g-tests--28170

that leads me to believe that vitali was only speaking for HIMSELF & not for wlad. wlad has no problems with it. both brothers have conflicting stories..........


IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT BY NOW........YOU'RE JUST DUMB.

now run along & troll someone else's post ya loser............


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That 2 links no where say Vitali is against a blood test and your **** is nothing but pure BIASED speculation no where close to being valid facts.
All I see is Wlad (NOT Vitali) having a problem with some demands from Povetkin's camp (while it should be clear that Povetkin has been ducking Wlad for over 3 years now and uses every excuse he can get) and still later agrees to it. You have been unable to back up your claim "Vitali doesn't want to take a blood test" and are to this point still unable to back it up. That's the truth.

[americanbot]

That 2 links no where say Vitali is against a blood test and your **** is nothing but pure BIASED speculation no where close to being valid facts.
All I see is Wlad (NOT Vitali) having a problem with some demands from Povetkin's camp (while it should be clear that Povetkin has been ducking Wlad for over 3 years now and uses every excuse he can get) and still later agrees to it. You have been unable to back up your claim "Vitali doesn't want to take a blood test" and are to this point still unable to back it up. That's the truth.

believe what you will in your own lala world..............

even evidence as hard as a brick won't change the delusional..............

[edgarg]

I've heard Tyson was an overweight kid and have not seen a reliable source stating that he was that heavy although he may well have been. As an amateur he fought at 180 lbs, later under the 200 lb mark until turning pro.

Vitali Klitschko used to weigh a skinny 200 lbs during his kickboxing career, he put on a lot of weight in the late 90's but he did also use steroids during that time which may have helped him gain that physique.

Accorting to all the documented reports he did NOT "use steroids during that time".... His doctor prescribed a cortisone based ointment one time, for a nagging knee injury suffered in kick-boxing. When asked, he willingly told what it was, and was badly surprised to find it was banned. He did not "admit" was no "found out" etc that a ll the crazies like to drool over.

[edgarg]

It's not but when you are as dedicated a trainer as he, it can be quite difficult to keep that amount of mass in your frame. Vitali was closer to 250 lbs for the majority of his career, although he recently weighed in at around 240.

He weighed in at 243. This was because Adamek was much lighter and faster. He weighed around an d over 150 against the heavier guys like Arreola. He began is career at 233, with his next fight, that same month at 236. As I recall, WK generally weighed i at 244, and VK at 248. Regularly.

[joseph5620]

Accorting to all the documented reports he did NOT "use steroids during that time".... His doctor prescribed a cortisone based ointment one time, for a nagging knee injury suffered in kick-boxing. When asked, he willingly told what it was, and was badly surprised to find it was banned. He did not "admit" was no "found out" etc that a ll the crazies like to drool over.

It's unbelievable how much of a liar you are when you have an agenda. It's documented that Vitali tested positive in 96 and was thrown off the team. He later included this in his book. That's not an "admission." James Toney claimed he used steroids for an injured shoulder. How many people believe that? I didn't think so.

[edgarg]

He retired for 4 years due to chronic injury and hasn't had a major injury since, so I wouldn't disregard it as a possibility. Steroids can be used to treat injury; he could've used during his hiatus to help his body recuperate. He might still have to cycle before, during, or after training camps to maintain his body injury-free.

Until there's evidence, we can't go beyond speculation, but that doesn't rule out the possibility.

You are not telling the truth. He did NOT have a chronic injury, he had a ONE TIME injury, a snapped ACL. from entangling his leg with his sparring parner's. Takes years to heal and most often is career endin. He was lucky.Soli s recently broke HIS PCL (Posterior Cruciate Ligament) fortunately no as seious as ACL, but still takes 6-12 months to properly heal, with a beter prognosis.

There are so many lame-brains on this site who never take the troubleo read the news properly, and therefore make uninformed and ignorant statements like this one abov

[Joeyzagz]

You once more reveal yourself as a pure and bad blood Klitschko hater, and your hate-filled posts are already very disturbing to read. For a non-hating person it should appear clear that neither of the two is correct and the truth is simply that Vitali was using a painkiller that contained a banned substance to come into the Olympics (which only come once every 4 years - his only chance) with a leg injury, and that has nothing to do with any missing skills or boxing talent, and nothing to do with his pro career and pro achievements.

The rules and list of banned substances are clearly outlined for athletes in all languages.

If a guy tests positive for banned substance its evidence of guilt, ******ity or both.

An Injured athlete simply withdraws from the games. He does not use banned substances to get OVER. Thats cheating.

[TheGreatA]

Accorting to all the documented reports he did NOT "use steroids during that time".... His doctor prescribed a cortisone based ointment one time, for a nagging knee injury suffered in kick-boxing. When asked, he willingly told what it was, and was badly surprised to find it was banned. He did not "admit" was no "found out" etc that a ll the crazies like to drool over.

That's an excuse that has been used far too many times to be taken as a fact.

I can accept the possibility that he used it to treat injuries unknowingly, but I also accept the possibility that, much like hundreds of other athletes, he used knowingly and had to make an explanation in order to preserve his credibility under the attack of media which labels PED users as unsportsman-like cheaters.

You're arguing that Klitschko used steroids to heal injuries caused by his kickboxing career but you also argue that Klitschko isn't/hasn't been injury-prone. Which is true?

As far as I'm concerned, when injuries have caused three major incidents during your boxing career (the Olympics, the Byrd fight, the retirement) you can be called injury-prone. He also pulled out of a fight with McCline during his comeback due to back injury. What I'm saying is that he suffered from injuries more than most boxers do which set his career back and may have kept him from reaching even greater heights in the heavyweight division.

[Joeyzagz]

As far as I'm concerned, when injuries have caused three major incidents during your boxing career (the Olympics, the Byrd fight, the retirement) you can be called injury-prone.

Mysterious injuries that pop up in opposite parts of the body: knee, shoulder, are red flags for steroid abuse.

These injuries happen because the joints cant keep up with the rapid, un-natural muscle growth. You cant Cheat the human body.