Vitaly and steroids

[edgarg]

Nothing in B-Hop's performances or conditioning suggest that he is on Steroids or any other performance enhancer. Not the fastest guy, has gotten tired during fights before when the pace wasn't according to his liking. No shredded physique.

The only thing that has kept him in the game is clean living, routine fitness, slowing down the biological clock of aging a little, and using his unorthodox technique and defense to either expose flawed Boxers, or squeak out close decision wins.

Well, steroids don't remove age deterioration, they built muscle, there is a strong resemblence between Hopkins' build and Holyfield's. And Evan Fields" who lived at Holyfield's address and used his phone number, was a long time proven steroid user.

And Hopkins is known to do almost anything in the world to win, not neccessariy fairly, in fact almost certainly not fairly, going by his ring behaviour. Why should his training behaviour be different? He's the sort of fellow of whom anything could be believed-except sportsmanship and truth.

[TheGreatA]

Mysterious injuries that pop up in opposite parts of the body: knee, shoulder, are red flags for steroid abuse.

These injuries happen because the joints cant keep up with the rapid, un-natural muscle growth. You cant Cheat the human body.

It can also be a sign of having taken kicks to the legs and arms for years before even starting a career in boxing.

Video of Vitali Klitschko as a kickboxer against future cruiserweight champion James Warring:


Vitali Klitschko vs James Warring by BOXEN99

Another fight:



Kickboxing highlights:

[edgarg]

He tested POSITIVE for steroids first. whatever excuse/admission he gave afterwards is irrelevant.



Now how the fck does a "Doctor" of sports medicine fail a drug test?

A. He is the dumbest person ever to receive such a degree.

B. He was so deep into juicing he couldnt cycle off in time.

Personally I think its both.

He didn't give any "excuse" or "admission" Neither were required. He told them exactly what he used and the doctor in Ukraine who prescribed it, and why, He also wrote about this in his autobiography published in 2004 I think, maybe 2005. He was certainly not trying to hide anything and had no idea that he was using a banned substance. He was raging about it.

This is very different from a confirmed, long time PED user, as different as chalk is from cheese. Don't bother me any more trying to push your useless point about what happened in amateur days in 1995, already 17 years ago.

[edgarg]

Mysterious injuries that pop up in opposite parts of the body: knee, shoulder, are red flags for steroid abuse.

These injuries happen because the joints cant keep up with the rapid, un-natural muscle growth. You cant Cheat the human body.

You're talking nonsense as usual. Klitschko is not a muscular marvel. he is long, lean, gawky, and not really athletically built. Wheras known steoid users are muscular, I think they call it ripped, with muscle ridges sharply defined all over theor bodies, especially the upper torso.

[JAB5239]

Well, steroids don't remove age deterioration, they built muscle, there is a strong resemblence between Hopkins' build and Holyfield's. And Evan Fields" who lived at Holyfield's address and used his phone number, was a long time proven steroid user.

And Hopkins is known to do almost anything in the world to win, not neccessariy fairly, in fact almost certainly not fairly, going by his ring behaviour. Why should his training behaviour be different? He's the sort of fellow of whom anything could be believed-except sportsmanship and truth.

Holyfield is NOT a proven steroid user. I have my su****ions of him as well, but aren't you applying a double standard accusing me of being irresponsible for questioning Vitaly and you outright calling Evander a cheat?

[edgarg]

It can also be a sign of having taken kicks to the legs and arms for years before even starting a career in boxing.

Video of Vitali Klitschko as a kickboxer against future cruiserweight champion James Warring:


Vitali Klitschko vs James Warring by BOXEN99

Another fight:



Kickboxing highlights:

The guy was only a kid, 23 years old. Also, for about 4 years he was both kickboxing and boxing concurrently. Not an activity of a multi-injured, kicked to pieces hulk, that you seem to be portraying him as..........

Do you never stop to think how silly you sound to normal others, except crazies???

[JAB5239]

You're talking nonsense as usual. Klitschko is not a muscular marvel. he is long, lean, gawky, and not really athletically built. Wheras known steoid users are muscular, I think they call it ripped, with muscle ridges sharply defined all over theor bodies, especially the upper torso.

So is Hopkins, so what's your point? You're saying it's possible for one to use but not the other? That's ridiculous and no objective person would subscribe to it. Just admit the possibility is there or you've lost your credibility on the topic.

[edgarg]

Holyfield is NOT a proven steroid user. I have my su****ions of him as well, but aren't you applying a double standard accusing me of being irresponsible for questioning Vitaly and you outright calling Evander a cheat?

it is documented everywhere (look for it, or don't bother ,I'msure you've already seen it) that on the books of the steriod supplier was a client name "Evan Fields", with address of Evan-der Holy-Field, and with Holyfield'sphone numbe, which, when tried was answered by Holyfield himself. When asked about the Evan Fields thing, he hung up.

So....YOU tell ME.........??? Huh??

[edgarg]

So is Hopkins, so what's your point? You're saying it's possible for one to use but not the other? That's ridiculous and no objective person would subscribe to it. Just admit the possibility is there or you've lost your credibility on the topic.

Everybody has lost his "credibility" but you. You remind me of the old Irish widdow woman watching her son marching in his army squad, saying..."Thar he goes G-D Bless 'im, the only wan in shtep"........

[JAB5239]

it is documented everywhere (look for it, or don't bother ,I'msure you've already seen it) that on the books of the steriod supplier was a client name "Evan Fields", with address of Evan-der Holy-Field, and with Holyfield'sphone numbe, which, when tried was answered by Holyfield himself. When asked about the Evan Fields thing, he hung up.

So....YOU tell ME.........??? Huh??

That isn't proof, it's speculation and a double standard. I personally think he has, but he's refuted these allegations just like Vitaly did. You've applied a double standard my man.