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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Oh I see. You can have it both ways.

    When Soto is the mandatory and, along with Guzman, the best available opponent, he doesn't get the fight because he's a "nobody."
    sorry but soto was never pac's mandatory. kinda ruins your theory. he was the mandatory to Juan Manuel Marquez later on, so maybe this thread should be "did marquez duck soto?".

    But when it's Jorge Solis - who is a nobody - he gets the fight because of his "ranking."
    See this is why TIMING is a big issue and something you seem to lack and understand (or simply want to ignore when it comes to pacquiao). When Pac fought Solis, Soto was coming off a win over Humberto Toledo. He had no belt nor was he ranked #1, or #2, or #3, or #4 or #5.

    It wasn't until November 2007 when Soto got a title shot, and he got his butt kicked by Guzman. Now IF soto would have beat guzman, then one could make the case pac should have fought him, but he didn't. He wasn't in the top 5 when pac could have logically fought him. He wasn't a mandatory. He was simple a top 10 fighter in the division who hadn't done anything yet.

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    • Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
      sorry but soto was never pac's mandatory. kinda ruins your theory. he was the mandatory to Juan Manuel Marquez later on, so maybe this thread should be "did marquez duck soto?".



      See this is why TIMING is a big issue and something you seem to lack and understand (or simply want to ignore when it comes to pacquiao). When Pac fought Solis, Soto was coming off a win over Humberto Toledo. He had no belt nor was he ranked #1, or #2, or #3, or #4 or #5.

      It wasn't until November 2007 when Soto got a title shot, and he got his butt kicked by Guzman. Now IF soto would have beat guzman, then one could make the case pac should have fought him, but he didn't. He wasn't in the top 5 when pac could have logically fought him. He wasn't a mandatory. He was simple a top 10 fighter in the division who hadn't done anything yet.
      What do you mean it ruins my theory? Whether you like it or not, Soto was considered a tougher challenger than Marco Antonio Barrera. So was Guzman. He didn't fight him. Your reason? He was a nobody. Why fight Solis then? Was he a mandatory? Was he somebody?

      Let me help you again. Just say: "I will defend Manny Pacquiao at all costs." There you go.

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      • Originally posted by brick wall View Post
        lol are these dumbasses really serious in making a case for soto getting ducked by pac?

        why not just make a list of all the not-so-top fighters from flyweight to welter during pac's time in each division and call it the "fighters pac ducked list"
        That's pretty much exactly what is done for Mayweather.

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          What do you mean it ruins my theory? Whether you like it or not, Soto was considered a tougher challenger than Marco Antonio Barrera. So was Guzman. He didn't fight him. Your reason? He was a nobody. Why fight Solis then? Was he a mandatory? Was he somebody?
          holy **** are you really this dumb and stubborn? Pac did not have a big fight in april of 2007 lined up. Who was available for him to fight? Marquez & Barrera were fighting eachother. Solis was undefeated and number 4 (or number 2) in the division. Where was soto? When there is no big money fight available, who do you fight out of the unknowns? the lower ranked guy? or the higher ranked guy?


          Let me help you again. What I really mean is: "I will hate on Manny Pacquiao at all costs, in every thread I can, no matter how ******ed the thread may be such as pacquiao ducking the bus driver humberto soto!" There you go.
          Thanks man, this is all I needed from you - the truth.

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          • Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            holy **** are you really this dumb and stubborn? Pac did not have a big fight in april of 2007 lined up. Who was available for him to fight? Marquez & Barrera were fighting eachother. Solis was undefeated and number 4 (or number 2) in the division. Where was soto? When there is no big money fight available, who do you fight out of the unknowns? the lower ranked guy? or the higher ranked guy?




            Thanks man, this is all I needed from you - the truth.
            When he fought Barrera, he could have fought Soto instead. Period. But it's ok to fight a nobody when it suits your argument, and not ok when it doesn't. That's the life of a *******. You hop from one foot to another without ever noticing how far you've jumped away from reality. Just say it, NATAS. "I will defend Manny Pacquiao at all costs."

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              When he fought Barrera, he could have fought Soto instead. Period. But it's ok to fight a nobody when it suits your argument, and not ok when it doesn't. That's the life of a *******. You hop from one foot to another without ever noticing how far you've jumped away from reality. Just say it, NATAS. "I will defend Manny Pacquiao at all costs."
              yes of course because you still ignore the fact no big money fight was available in april which is why he fought solis (and if pacquiao fought soto & whooped his ass you idiots would be complaining how pac ducked the #2 in the division in solis ).

              And I love how I'm a "*******" when I disagree about something with you when it comes to pac. I hardly ever talk about pacquiao **** in this forum. The only two things I ever defended was the original drug testing and ****** stuff like this (did pac duck a bum). mosley was a terrible fight, total waste of time and if he fights cotto or peterson i'll criticize the **** out of him. I'm a boxing fan and you know that
              Last edited by ИATAS; 01-04-2012, 05:51 PM.

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              • manny pacquioa haters getting schooled

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                • Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  yes of course because you still ignore the fact no big money fight was available in april which is why he fought solis (and if pacquiao fought soto & whooped his ass you idiots would be complaining how pac ducked the #2 in the division in solis :rofl).
                  You're so hilarious. Tell me - how much did Manny get paid for Barrera II? How much did he get paid for Solis? And how much would he get paid for Soto? What's that? You don't know? I didn't think so.

                  LOL @ he fought Solis because there was no big money fight (Bull**** BTW). But he wouldn't fight Soto because he was a nobody? You don't even see how much of a d*ckrider you are. You will one day though - when Manny throws you off his lap.

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    That's pretty much exactly what is done for Mayweather.
                    who did?

                    are you saying these people making ridiculous attempts to make it appear like pac ducked class B fighters are doing it in retaliation to what was done to their fav fighter...and in this case floyd?

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                    • Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                      who did?

                      are you saying these people making ridiculous attempts to make it appear like pac ducked class B fighters are doing it in retaliation to what was done to their fav fighter...and in this case floyd?
                      Does it look like that's what I'm saying?

                      I'm saying this statment from you;

                      "why not just make a list of all the not-so-top fighters from flyweight to welter during pac's time in each division and call it the "fighters pac ducked list"

                      Is the exact same thing that is done for the fighters Mayweather supposedly ducked.

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