Why is Ray Leonard not considered the GOAT?

[Alx.]

he's an atg, that's enough

[ИATAS]

yeah thats right, and here we go, overrating hopkins beating up on smaller men in front of 20 people and assorted stray animals at the blue horizon...

yet you rate hagler as GOAT and his best wins are Duran (lightweight), Leonard (welterweight) & Hearns (welterweight).

[djtmal]

LOL You think a division where the #2 guys were Mustafa Hamsho, Alan Minter and Vito Antuofermo is one of the toughest ever? GTFO

compare who hagler went through to who hopkins went through and get back at me...and please highlight hopkins beating the same smaller men about 5 times apiece...hagler is the goat haters gonna hate all day

[D4thincarnation]

yet you rate hagler as GOAT and his best wins are Duran (lightweight), Leonard (welterweight) & Hearns (welterweight).

He never beat Leonard.

And Mugabi was his best win

And Hearns was also a cruiserweight.

[djtmal]

yet you rate hagler as GOAT and his best wins are Duran (lightweight), Leonard (welterweight) & Hearns (welterweight).

his best wins come way before he fought his first big $ fights....against natural middleweights...his highest profile win is hearns, who moved up from welter, but had the height and reach on hagler by miles...name a welter moving up hopkins fought who actually looked close to his size...its a wrap man hagler is the goat, haters gonna hate...

[SCtrojansbaby]

compare who hagler went through to who hopkins went through and get back at me...and please highlight hopkins beating the same smaller men about 5 times apiece...hagler is the goat haters gonna hate all day

Hopkins division wasn't great either but when you look back they both beat welterweights as their signature wins and they lost to the best guy they ever fought(RJJ/SRL). Difference is Hopkins went up to 175 and dominated guys as huge underdogs

[djtmal]

Hopkins division wasn't great either but when you look back they both beat welterweights as their signature wins and they lost to the best guy they ever fought(RJJ/SRL). Difference is Hopkins went up to 175 and dominated guys as huge underdogs

difference is hopkins was always a 175 lb. fighter beating up on smaller men, and hagler dominated a division for an entire career at his best weight, and retired on top...hagler is the goat man haters gonna find excuses....

[ИATAS]

his best wins come way before he fought his first big $ fights....against natural middleweights...his highest profile win is hearns, who moved up from welter, but had the height and reach on hagler by miles...name a welter moving up hopkins fought who actually looked close to his size...its a wrap man hagler is the goat, haters gonna hate...

hopkins beat two guys who moved up from welterweight. Two. One of them was a middleweight champ when hopkins fought him (tito). But hey I guess he only fought welterewights right, guys like glen johnson I suppose were all welterweights!

[SCtrojansbaby]

difference is hopkins was always a 175 lb. fighter beating up on smaller men, and hagler dominated a division for an entire career at his best weight, and retired on top...hagler is the goat man haters gonna find excuses....

lol the only notable guys Hopkins beat at middleweight that were so much smaller than him were Simon Brown, Tito Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya. You can keep making up BS but those are the facts.

Thomas Hearns is a bum I guess he was beating up on smaller men since he was always a natural 160.

Carlos Monzon is a turd shame on him for beating up on Jose Napoles and Emile Griffith.

Holyfield's a bum also he was always a natural Heavyweight right?

[IronDanHamza]

I disagree.

You don't think it's argubale that Leonard has the best 4 signature wins of all time?

Or you disagree with that he lacks depth compared to other greats?