Better career as of now? Ward or Calzaghe?

[Guest]

Darren Barker, lol.

Well, everyone's allowed an easy one, esp. when Martinez has fought a lot of tough comp. Barker did okay though, didn't he?


Here's a prediction: Ward will get flack for taking a "gimmee" next time. But after fighting who he has, let the kid have a break for a bit.

[DiegoFuego]

You know what? I actually agree with you. The funniest quote about Calzaghe came from, IMO, Carl Froch himself: "Calzaghe's career has more question marks than the Riddler's catsuit."

I just think you're misrepresenting slightly, slanting the facts a little in Ward's favour. I do think it's really pretty close, and you could argue that getting a contentious decision over an ancient Bore Hard > everything Ward has achieved so far. But the fact that the question can be asked and considered says a lot about Slapsie's career.

Exactly. I'm not just sitting on my couch praying Ward wins his fights so I can come on here and say, "He's better than Calzaghe!" But when an argument can be made, what does that say about Calzaghe that it's even close at this point, knowing Ward will probably fight 5-6 more years minimum? If he beats Bute, this poll is rendered pointless because there is no debate.

I make no attempt to hide the fact that I do not like Calzaghe. I've gone so far as to PRAISE Hatton for actually taking on big fights while Calzaghe stayed home and hid behind his meaningless record. Yet there are plenty of people from England who say Calzaghe had the better career than Hatton. I say NO WAY IN HELL. Hatton lost to arguably two of the best 10 fighters to ever walk the earth. Calzaghe hasn't fought half the competition Hatton has. Calzaghe may be the better fighter, but it would be a real shame if he ended his career more adored than Hatton.

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Calzaghe would have utterly destroyed Froch and KO'd him. He'd have made Ward look like an amateur....they guy was on another level

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Darren Barker, lol.

23-0, 14 ko's.........doesn't look too scrubby on paper now does it?

He'd give anyone trouble and beat 95% of any MW you put in front of him...smh

[Guest]

Meaning what? Two incompetent judges scored a fight closer than it was? You don't see that EVER in boxing! Love to see your scorecard. I'm guessing it has more than 2 rounds in Froch's column.

See, why do you do THIS, Diego? It's such a ******, ****headish move on your part.

It doesn't make me look bad, it makes YOU look bad. It makes you look like a *****y, snidey, silly little boy who can't debate like an adult.

What, because Carl Froch comes from England I'm completely incapable of scoring a fight? Only the good ol' USA can score a fight objectively? (Wait... where did the third judge who scored it 118 for Ward come from again?)


Don't "Brit" me. Don't be that much of a silly little prick.


From the post you EVEN QUOTED:

I largely concur with your assessment of last night's fight

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Sidenote : Ricky Hatton doesn't get the credit he deserves ever since the embarassing destruction at the hands of the Pingster.

It's funny how "fans" of this sport are so quick to write guys off after a crushing defeat. Cotto is another example of a guy who I feel hasn't gotten his "just due" around here since the Margarito and Pacquiao beatings. Granted that's changed a bit since his revenge on Margarito, but the point still stands.

I'd much rather have guys face the best and lose, than avoid the best and win.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Calzaghe, but it's close already. Had Ward fought and beaten Dirrell instead of Allan Green (who I don't rate at all), it'd be a tough decision.

[DiegoFuego]

Calzaghe would have utterly destroyed Froch and KO'd him. He'd have made Ward look like an amateur....they guy was on another level

And what about Calzaghe's record suggests he would have KO'd Froch, who probably has the best chin of anyone at 168? Is it the fact that he failed to KO a shot Roy Jones, who Danny Green KO'd in 1 minute?

Calzaghe can't score a KO without a ref stepping in to call it after Joe hits all glove 20+ times a la Peter Manfredo.

[DiegoFuego]

See, why do you do THIS, Diego? It's such a ******, ****headish move on your part.

It doesn't make me look bad, it makes YOU look bad. It makes you look like a *****y, snidey, silly little boy who can't debate like an adult.

What, because Carl Froch comes from England I'm completely incapable of scoring a fight? Only the good ol' USA can score a fight objectively? (Wait... where did the third judge who scored it 118 for Ward come from again?)


Don't "Brit" me. Don't be that much of a silly little prick.


From the post you EVEN QUOTED:

"Largely." LOL. Please tell me your card. I want to watch these rounds Froch supposedly won.

[Guest]

Manfredo's life was saved that night.