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ward is willing to take any test, thats good enough. to say he might be on something simply bcuz he hasnt gon out of his way to take stricter tests is reaching for something to critisize. everyone except mayweather is on something by that logic, conte and other trainers mixed up with steroids work with loads of top fighters so i have no clue why ward gets singled out all the damn time. the way people hate this guy for no reason is just crazy.
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Wrong.
Find me one post in my posting history where I've cheered for Froch.
I have no "dog" in tonight's fight, I'm simply doing my best to promote an intelligent conversation on the contradictorial actions Ward has taken in spite of his public statements.
I believe Ward wins rather easily tonight. Though I should have assumed somebody would be pitiful enough to try to label me as an excuse maker : This is NSB, afterall....Land of the delusional, conspiratorial, and nonsensical.Comment
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I'm fully aware you're a good and well respected poster. Think I might of spoke too soon calling you an excuse maker, my bad. I just personally think starting up threads like these right before a big fight feeds the haters who already are spewing nonsense about Ward (obviously you're not one of them).Comment
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1.) Anybody can say "I'm willing to take the tests". Actually doing it is another story, though. The fact that you would give credit to someone for simply uttering the statement is laughable to me.
2.) As for you implying that I am saying Ward is definitely on something : I refer you back to my original post, in which I said quite clearly, "I'm not saying I'm convinced he's cheating."
Jesus Christ you fanboys are sensitive : Nobody can even promote an intelligent conversation that runs counter to your "favorites" without you guys getting all butt hurt about it.
Yo, 'dis guy is a fukkin' h8er, he hatin' on my boy, yo! Ward is a national treasure, let's go nuke some orphans!Comment
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This is just a copy and paste job from a Ward press release.
If anyone has been following things, they will remember that the Super Six also contractually stated that there would be neutral officials, but straight away Ward's team tried to have hometown officials for his fights. So the claim from Ward that WADA is contractually agreed upon isn't as significant as it may seem, especially when you consider that
Another issue is a testing protocol by WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency]. California does not have a WADA testing requirement in place. Two of Abraham's three fights in the Super Six have involved WADA testing. The fights with Carl Froch [Helsinki] and Jermain Taylor [Berlin] had WADA testing protocols in place, while the fight with Andre Dirrell [Detroit] did not.
So yeah, Ward's team are talking BS.
And as Bringer already mentioned, WADA is not perfect, and bringing it up doesn't really address the key point of the thread: Ward is working with a drugs cheat, and when people get su****ious, he says 'don't worry, I am going to get better testing for my next fight to prove a point' and then he doesn't do it.Comment
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Alright, alright. He should back up what he says. I get you. No one's perfect, even if he's aligned himself with the slogan SOG. I also would like to see him enforce stricter drug testing in his future fights.
Ward's no longer working with Conte, btw. Hasn't been for sometime now.Last edited by Dedication; 12-17-2011, 11:26 AM.Comment
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im not a fanboy i just dont like when fighters get discredited for no god damn reason.
yes anyone can say they are willing to take a test, sure. but until he acctually went back on his word you have to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he would take the test. to just assume hes lying bcuz he hasnt gon out of his way to do something like 1% of the fighters out there are doing is reaching for something to ***** about.
if someone puts a contract in front of him and asks him point blank to take stricter tests and he refuses, then he deserves this critisism but until then you are reaching.
i never claimed you said ward was definitely on something, but even questioning him is unfair. theres nothing intelligent about the conversation you are trying to start neither, its not even a conversation. its one man trying to single out a fighter to talk **** about and question his honesty for doing the same thing as 99% of the boxers out there.
why does ward deserve to be singled out? there are so many other fighters working with people who have been involved with steroids in the past, hell there are plenty of fighters who have been involved with steroids in the past. mosley, toney, vitali, everyone conte trains and everyone roach trains could be under attack too, yet you single out ward. why?
these fighters arent taking no more tests either, and thats fine. if they go out of their way to get tested thats good just like if they refuse to get tested when asked thats bad. but you cant hold it against them that they havent done everything in their power to get tested. thats not fair.Comment
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If Ward is using PEDs I suspect his KO percentage would be a lot higher.Comment
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