How is Martinez too big for Mayweather?

[RapidFire26]

It's a fact. Martinez is too big for Floyd because he currently fights at the Middleweight division as opposed to the Welterweight division, of which Floyd Mayweather Jr. is currently campaigning at. However, If Martinez is truly serious in wanting to challenge Mayweather or even Manny Pacquiao for that matter, then he should consider coming down in weight to challenge them both at the 147 lbs weight limit with no catch weight; Since he claims fighting at the higher weight classes of 168 or greater is asking too much of him and would put him at a great disadvantage with the larger opponents. However, what is so ironic, is that it would be a lot easier for him to move up in weight to challenge guys who are little stronger and closer to his own size? Since he would have the speed advantage over them as opposed to starching himself, in order to cut weight, just so he can challenge naturally smaller and weaker opponents than himself. Besides he is a lot closer to the 168 lbs division than he is to a 150 lbs anyway.

The 168 fighters are not considered the P4P best and don't offer the same amount of money. I can't blame him in that regard given his age.

The three pounds he is asking for is less than the 168 fighters have asked him to gain.

Martinez is arguably a natural JMW, which is only a weight class above WW. Also, as pointed out Floyd already fought De La Hoya at 154 and Martinez came in at 165 with Barker, while Ortiz was only a pound less against Floyd. This is without Martinez working to reduce weight, so you got to believe he could at least get down to 160.

[fabie]

As if fighters from different weight classes have never fought.

It's called CATCHWEIGHT...nothing wrong with it, if both sides agree....

[turbotime]

Meh, Sergio has good fights at MW he can be making.

[champion4ever]

The 168 fighters are not considered the P4P best and don't offer the same amount of money. I can't blame him in that regard given his age.

The three pounds he is asking for is less than the 168 fighters have asked him to gain.

Martinez is arguably a natural JMW, which is only a weight class above WW. Also, as pointed out Floyd already fought De La Hoya at 154 and Martinez came in at 165 with Barker, while Ortiz was only a pound less against Floyd. This is without Martinez working to reduce weight, so you got to believe he could at least get down to 160.

I agree. One cannot argue about why Martinez is attempting to call out the naturally smaller guys in the sport of boxing, like Mayweather and Pacquiao as opposed to the naturally larger ones, who are closer to his own size or even a little bigger, because none of them in those divisions are either cash cows or pay per view attractions. Also, they don't generate a lot of buzz and excitement at the box office either. So sure from a pure business standpoint. I can totally understand the reasoning behind Martinez logic in calling out Floyd Money Mayweather, because he is a draw, have a loyal following and a huge fan base also. This scenario is very reminiscent of Bernard Hopkins when he decided to linger around at Middleweight, instead of moving up and challenging opponents his own size in the higher weight classes, just so he could stick around long enough to challenge the naturally smaller Tito Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya for the much larger career paydays. Now to your next point, while it's true that Martinez is a natural JMW, however on the other hand, Floyd is arguably a natural LW. So Martinez has at least a four weight class advantage over Mayweather. The only reason why Floyd fought De La Hoya at LMW, was because Oscar had leverage over him and held all the cards. However at this point, Martinez has no leverage at all over Mayweather, because he has nothing Floyd needs in terms of money. He can make money without Sergio Martinez, while Sergio Martinez cannot make a huge payday without Floyd unless Manny Pacquiao agrees to fight him.

[JOM'S]

to be truthful aside for the money that Floyd brings, Martinez knows he has this big size advantage that he can use versus Floyd and use it to get a W, main reason Sergio is picking a fight with the smaller guys like Floyd, Pac and Cotto instead of going for the bigger guys...

anyway I dont see Sergio as too big for Floyd, I have not seen Floyd gave up to much size versus his biggest opponents i.e. dela hoya, mosley or even ortiz ...

[TheKza]

Lol and Floyd didn't weight 154 dude...more like 151!! And Oscar had way more to offer Floyd....don't get me wrong, I wanna see that fight but don't make it seem like u don't see why it wouldn't happen. His last fight he weighed 146...he's not a big WW.

Ray Leonard went up to MW to fight Hagler. No one is even asking Floyd to go to 160, he just has to fight at 154.

[#1Assassin]

martinez is a more solid MW than floyd is a WW, so hes two full weighclasses bigger. the problem isnt martinez being too big though, its floyd being too small. let me explain..

its not that floyd cant fight martinez bcuz hes too strong and powerful, its that floyd would have to move up to a weight where he wouldnt be able to perform. if he comes in at 148 he gives up like 20lbs which is too much. if he weighs over 150 he is gonna lose all his speed, reflexes, stamina and even punching power since putting on way too much mass will make a fighter so slow he will lose all explosiveness even though hes getting stronger.

we already saw floyd at 150 against DLH and he wasnt his usual self although he still won. now martinez is even bigger than DLH, much bigger. i understand ppl want to see these big p4p matchups, but if the fighters are gonna handicap themselfs is it really worth it? some ppl seem like they would rather watch two top guys from different weights fighting at half their ability trying to find mutual ground rather than the two best guy in the same wightclass performing at their best.

[#1Assassin]

Ray Leonard went up to MW to fight Hagler. No one is even asking Floyd to go to 160, he just has to fight at 154.

ray leonard started his career at 147, he was a very big WW. floyd started his career at 130, hes a very small WW.

leonard fighting at 160 is like floyd fighting at 140, which he has and then some. floyd moving up to 160 would be like leonard moving up to CW. as we all know leonard made lalonde come down from 175 to fight him and he was garbage.

[SPREAD]

Martinez fight plan should be as follows:

Chavez Jnr Get the belt back that is rightfully his.

Alvarez Trust me Alvarez is a middleweight this fight is legit.

Pirog Once Pirog and his team realise that he is not a draw even compared to Martinez and don't price themsleves out, this is a real hard fight for martinez, one that could turn ugly.

Golovkin Big puncher swansong fight, probaly a repeat of Pavlik fight.

Sturm This eventually has to happen, will take longer now as he has to give Murray a rematch.

Murray If Murrray beats Sturm, Martinez beats Murray easily, unlike Barker.

Macklin Another name on the resume, to bulk up a career that was moonlighting.

Andy Lee If Lee starts to climb the rankings and devolops nicely this will be a sure fight in a year or two.


Now i don't see why people are still talking about Mayweather and Pacquiao other than Martinez wanting to cash in. Martinez beats 4/5 above and he is rightfully a HOF and probaly has a better legacy at middleweight than Hopkins.

[SPREAD]

to be truthful aside for the money that Floyd brings, Martinez knows he has this big size advantage that he can use versus Floyd and use it to get a W, main reason Sergio is picking a fight with the smaller guys like Floyd, Pac and Cotto instead of going for the bigger guys...

anyway I dont see Sergio as too big for Floyd, I have not seen Floyd gave up to much size versus his biggest opponents i.e. dela hoya, mosley or even ortiz ...

Your joking right your Messiah had to drain and old man down to 147, Ortiz is massive and would **** Pac right up, and Mosley had just drawn his pension and got his piss bag changed over before the Pacquiao fight. Deluded ******* hating on Floyd, remember Marquez is Pac's daddy and in Pac's heart of hearts knows he lost the 2nd and 3rd fights for sure.