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  • #41
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    It called being a spin doctor. Saying the same thing, "Froch level of opposition is better than Wards", but putting a spin on it to make Froch sound worst making Ward sound not as bad.
    Er, not really.

    My post was in response to another poster, who said something along the lines of Ward having easy fights earlier in his career as opposed to Froch.

    When the fact is, Froch's level of opposition eariler in his career was utterly pathetic. And he has only being fighting Top level opposition since the tail end of 2008. And has only been fighting quality opposition 1 year longer than Ward.

    No spin, no nothing. It's not making anyone sound worse or better, just a mere response to something.

    It still doesn't change the fact that Froch up to this point on a whole has fought better fihgters than Ward. I have never denied that.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-15-2011, 04:44 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Er, not really.

      My post was in response to another poster, who said something along the lines of Ward having easy fights earlier in his career as opposed to Froch.

      When the fact is, Froch's level of opposition eariler in his career was utterly pathetic. And he has only being fighting Top level opposition since the tail end of 2008. And has only been fighting quality opposition 1 year longer than Ward.

      No spin, no nothing. It's not making anyone sound worse or better, just a mere response to something.

      It still doesn't change the fact that Froch up to this point on a whole has fought better fihgters than Ward. I have never denied that.
      Originally posted by Dudley View Post
      WARD has found fortitude of late early in his career when Froch was fighting the likes of Pascal i think i can see a loss on his record. But dabbling with the "What if" factor here.

      The quote is just saying when Froch was fighting Pascal Ward was fighting nobodies.

      You then go on to not disagree with his point but just put a spin on it to show Ward in a better light, like saying something Froch oposition was just as poor before then.

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      • #43
        absolutely not
        fighting a resume like that NOT IN HIS BACKYARD
        NO SHOT

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        • #44
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          The quote is just saying when Froch was fighting Pascal Ward was fighting nobodies.

          You then go on to not disagree with his point but just put a spin on it to show Ward in a better light, like saying something Froch oposition was just as poor before then.
          Except, that's not all it's saying.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            Would this mean Ward fighting away from home?

            Andre definitely out of his comfort zone.

            Johnson: Atlantic City, Win for Ward UD
            Abraham: Finland, Close UD for Ward
            Kessler: Denmark, Kessler by DQ
            Dirrel: Home fight, Ward UD,
            Taylor: Connecticut, Taylor UD
            Pascal: Home fight, Ward UD
            I don't think he would have been DQ'd in Denmark maybe penalized a point but still win a TD also Ward loses to Dirrel even if they fought in his living room Taylor like I said would have been a interesting early on

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            • #46
              Taylor could beat Ward at 168? Really? The same Taylor who couldn't handle Pavlik's 'boxing' at 168? SMH.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by turbotime View Post
                Taylor could beat Ward at 168? Really? The same Taylor who couldn't handle Pavlik's 'boxing' at 168? SMH.
                prime for prime Taylor destroys Ward but I never said he losses to him now I said it would have been interesting fight early rounds and I see Taylor giving him some problems

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                • #48
                  Man I can't wait till Ward beats up Froch and see and hear the fans moan, cry and complain.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    Taylor?

                    I'm not sure if that's a serious question, but everyone was asking for Taylor to retire "before' the tourny started.

                    Secondly, I don't see Dirrel or Pascal giving Ward problems.

                    Well, maybe Dirrel, but I don't think Pascal will.
                    yes, AFTER froch beat the **** outta him


                    i would be very very very confident in ward getting stopped vs dirrell and taylor

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by immortal tech View Post
                      prime for prime Taylor destroys Ward but I never said he losses to him now I said it would have been interesting fight early rounds and I see Taylor giving him some problems
                      Dude, cut it out. Ward would box his ears off. All Taylor did was fight and his defense was just bad.

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