could Andre Ward go through Froch resume undefeated?

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  • SplitSecond
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    #51
    Originally posted by turbotime
    Taylor could beat Ward at 168? Really? The same Taylor who couldn't handle Pavlik's 'boxing' at 168? SMH.
    he couldn't handle pavlik's boxing? he got pressured and pushed, same thing in the froch fight, his stamina deficiency was exposed

    both froch and pavlik(iron chinned individuals) where knockeddown and seriously hurt, taylor was very accurate, even bhop caught some nice ones, and ward is no where near as slick as bhop
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 12-15-2011, 09:21 PM.

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    • Phenom
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      #52
      Originally posted by COACH WEBB
      Man I can't wait till Ward beats up Froch and see and hear the fans moan, cry and complain.
      he supposed to beat up on Froch Ward is 3-1 favorite

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      • SixFootGiant
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        #53
        Quick question: I know Andre has fought all of his fights in the US and the majority in the Oakland area. But has he really benefited from hometown judging and refs?

        All of his fights have been wipeouts and really no opportunity for any controversy or home-cooking to help him. I think people are reaching

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        • immortal tech
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          #54
          Originally posted by SixFootGiant
          Quick question: I know Andre has fought all of his fights in the US and the majority in the Oakland area. But has he really benefited from hometown judging and refs?

          All of his fights have been wipeouts and really no opportunity for any controversy or home-cooking to help him. I think people are reaching
          fighting in your home town is an advantage even if its not a close decision also the Kessler fight would have been a different fight in Denmark imo I still favor Ward but it would have been a closer fight

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            #55
            Originally posted by Ugh!
            he couldn't handle pavlik's boxing? he got pressured and pushed, same thing in the froch fight, his stamina deficiency was exposed

            both froch and pavlik(iron chinned individuals) where knockeddown and seriously hurt, taylor was very accurate, even bhop caught some nice ones, and ward is no where near as slick as bhop
            Yeah and if he thinks Pavlik is a rough fighter he couldn't see Ward at any time at 168.

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            • immortal tech
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              #56
              Originally posted by COACH WEBB
              Dude, cut it out. Ward would box his ears off. All Taylor did was fight and his defense was just bad.
              just like Hopkins boxed his ears off because Taylor is that one dimensional right

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                #57
                Originally posted by immortal tech
                fighting in your home town is an advantage even if its not a close decision also the Kessler fight would have been a different fight in Denmark imo I still favor Ward but it would have been a closer fight
                I know the hometown advantage gives a fighter a boost, but to me unless the fight is hella close than really the hometown thing becomes a factor. If it's a rout then it really dont make a difference.

                And yeah for sure the Kessler fight would've been different in Denmark, Andre would've still won but he might have lost a few points for butts

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                • BattleAxePurist
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                  #58
                  Too fight that many top fighters back-to-back and not lose would be very difficult so not out of the question he could of lost Ward hasn't really fought anybody with fast hands or speedy footwork and other than Bika noone that can fight in close quarters his resume is pretty weak when put against Froch.
                  There were circumstances that favored Ward and not Froch in there only head-to-head match up(Kessler) but all will be settled soon...

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                  • COACH WEBB
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by immortal tech
                    just like Hopkins boxed his ears off because Taylor is that one dimensional right
                    Hopkins wasn't nearly as active as he should have been in those fights. Taylor's use and explosiveness helped him, however. But Taylor literally just fought. I can't remember him ever slipping a punch. I think Ward would have outboxed Taylor, with relative ease. Taylor could punch, sure, but he ate way too much leather. If he had a better defense, he would have beat Pavlik and Froch as well, IMO. And I thought that his fight with Winky was close, but I remember scoring it for Winky. I actually saw Winky in Vegas not long after that fight and telling him he won.

                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    he supposed to beat up on Froch Ward is 3-1 favorite
                    Yes, I know. But when they whine after Ward beats Froch, it will be all the more funny. That's the point I was trying to make.

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