How does Wladimir do it? Can Amir do it too?

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  • etlux
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    #41
    Originally posted by kiDynamite92
    1 Wlad paces himself
    2 Wlad doesn't throw pointless combination that hit the gloves or miss
    3 Wlad doesn't stand there and get him, he clinches
    4 Wlad is far more intelligent
    5 Wlad is more cautious now
    6 Wlad Stands his ground and doesn't run around like an idiot
    7 Wlad, including Haye, makes all his opponents look like a bunch of bums
    fixed.

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    • kiDynamite92
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      #42
      Originally posted by etlux
      fixed.
      If only you could fix your brain.

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        #43
        The short answer is work.

        Klitschko starts off with the jab and keeps it pumping early in case guys get ideas.

        Khan stops, admires, and gets in and gets cute.

        Wlad kicks back, is methodicial and throws it out as a warning alert, and it's hard and early he does it more so guys don't get ideas.

        Khan does have the power to do this. He doesnt though.

        I felt he won. He could've fought way better for sure.

        In tight what's wrong with a hook than moving, than re-set and pump that fast jab and step slightly away.

        If Khan kept on the stick it could've been way easier.

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        • Steak
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          #44
          Khan doesnt have Wladimir's physical attributes to pull of such a style. in a p4p sense, Wladimir hits harder, has a better jab, is physically stronger, and of course has a significant height advantage.

          Khan could fight similiarily to Wladimir and be effective, but Khan should stick with his strengths: And thats his handspeed. He can be more of a boxer, but he should never stray away from being the one that wants to gets his punches off first.

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          • KickAzz
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            #45
            Originally posted by wazaa.
            Wladimir is very good in:
            • Controlling the pace of the fight
            • Effectively using the jab
            • Holding ground in the centre of the ring
            • Staying on the outside


            Both Amir and Wladimir are athletic, tall and have "chin-issues".

            So how come Wladimir can do it but Amir can't?

            Is Amir with the wrong trainer? Should he team-up with Steward?
            if Khan wants to do what Wlad does, Khan can fight jr lightweights

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            • sdcluser
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              #46
              Originally posted by wazaa.
              Wladimir is very good in:
              • Controlling the pace of the fight
              • Effectively using the jab
              • Holding ground in the centre of the ring
              • Staying on the outside


              Both Amir and Wladimir are athletic, tall and have "chin-issues".

              So how come Wladimir can do it but Amir can't?

              Is Amir with the wrong trainer? Should he team-up with Steward?

              - Maybe it's not trainer.
              - Maybe it's ATTITUDE. Is Amir receptive to Roach?
              - Wladimir has a solid jab and willingness to engage. Very powerful punch to back it up. Does Amir have the same discipline to carry out the plan?
              He could dance around the outside gracefully with good ring generalship if he had a good jab. One needs to consider the following possibilities below:

              Maybe with quality boxing opposition makes Khanresorts to his usual style.
              Didn't Roach asked him to jab during the fight? Did Khan follow the instruction well? Amir's jab seems......"Devin Alexanderish". I personally think Roach would try to develop that part of the game but it ain't working too well.

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              • BoZz
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                #47
                Originally posted by wazaa.
                But accuracy can be learned, can't it?

                I mean skills can be taught, right? So why not?

                I dunno if Amir is a knockout waiting to happen but he got hit way too often last night. And I mean way too mucn unnecessarily.
                One would think that coach roach already taught him important things like that.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by wazaa.
                  Wladimir is very good in:
                  • Controlling the pace of the fight
                  • Effectively using the jab
                  • Holding ground in the centre of the ring
                  • Staying on the outside


                  Both Amir and Wladimir are athletic, tall and have "chin-issues".

                  So how come Wladimir can do it but Amir can't?

                  Is Amir with the wrong trainer? Should he team-up with Steward?

                  Because Wlad fights in an incredibly weak and unskilled division. If the heavyweight division had the same skills and talent of the welterweight division the "big man" style of fighting would be null and void.

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