Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Louis - Who wins?

[SCtrojansbaby]

After watching Vitali's brother struggle to outpoint Haye, a cruiserweight and watching Vitali go so many rounds with Adamek, a former light heavyweight champ,

lol yeah damn those Klitschko's for dominating and shutting out Haye and Adamek.

[JAB5239]

After watching Vitali's brother struggle to outpoint Haye, a cruiserweight and watching Vitali go so many rounds with Adamek, a former light heavyweight champ, I realize how silly people are by saying the Klitschko's would beat a great because they are too big. Klischko's fans just refuse to admit Louis was in another class all together. Louis at 210 pounds would breeze through everyone any heavyweight champion today has faced.

Come on, it's like saying an turkey would beat an eagle because it's taller and heavier.

Excellent post and right on the money. The Klits have a chance of course, but I would bet on Louis every time. He was a fighting machine with the greatest skills in heavyweight history. The Klits have decent skills but their horrible comp makes them appear better than they really are.

[JAB5239]

lol yeah damn those Klitschko's for dominating and shutting out Haye and Adamek.

The same Haye and Adamek who had a combined 10 fights at heavyweight beating only 1 top 10 fighter apiece? Yup, world beater those two were!

[Superflo777]

The same Haye and Adamek who had a combined 10 fights at heavyweight beating only 1 top 10 fighter apiece? Yup, world beater those two were!

You're basically complaining Klitschko's are fighting cruiserweights with only little heavyweight experience (and dominating them) but Loius was an even smaller cruiserweight.

[JAB5239]

You're basically complaining Klitschko's are fighting cruiserweights with only little heavyweight experience (and dominating them) but Loius was an even smaller cruiserweight.

Louis' skills are unprecedented and he had experience against every type of fighter. And while the Klits "big man" style may be the best to date, it isn't anything Louis hadn't dealt with before. NOBODY can say either Klit has had to experience what Joe Louis brought to the table though nor the power he brings with it.

And a trained down to 208lb Joe Louis FAR better than a blown up Adamek or Haye. I shudder to think how badly hurt either of these guys would have gotten against Louis.

[nomadman]

Vitali has a 40 lb weight advantage over a guy who fought 75 years ago? Damn, I should vote Vitali too! But then facts start to creep into my head....

-The fact Joe Louis destroyed EVERYONE with a 40+ lb advantage over him.

-The fact that he punched out 250 lb men, and The fact he took punches from 250lb men. Floored/KOd the biggest guys on his resume.

Vitali on the other hand...

Failed to floor Vaughn Bean and Chris Byrd, the two smallest guys on his resume, and he shamefully quit with a 40+ lb weight advantage over an opponent.

So basically you have a giant who fights below his average with little guys vs a little guy who is 100% KO perfect with Giants. Vitali has never seen a mite with the skills of a boxer, and punching powers of a lennox. Joe is like both of Vitali's losses combined into one fighter.

If you say so. Not sure if I should even bother writing a considered post to this considering how often you like to wind people up.

[JAB5239]

Just out of curiosity how many of Primo Carnera's knockouts came from guys who were actually full time professional boxers? Ill be waiting for your response. Have to rig numbers like a fa88ot to even make an argument. He has more KO's than Vitali, holy ****, Joe Bugner has more KO's than Ali, so Joe Bugner was better right. Who cares how many fights they had when you can just pick numbers to try to make a point.

I mean sure Carnera was knocked down 10 times in his savage beating loss to Max Baer the year before Joe Louis beat him, but who gives a **** about that right? I mean Vitali's never been knocked down in his career, but Primo Carnera had more knockouts so he must have been beter.

Carnera was knocked down so many times while trying to continue on with a broken ankle. Imagine trying to carry that weight around on a broken ankle and against a great puncher to boot? That takes courage. It's not like he hurt his shoulder and quit against a feather fisted fighter he was up on the cards against and had no chance of losing besides a ko. Just saying....

[boxingking500]

Louis' skills are unprecedented and he had experience against every type of fighter. And while the Klits "big man" style may be the best to date, it isn't anything Louis hadn't dealt with before. NOBODY can say either Klit has had to experience what Joe Louis brought to the table though nor the power he brings with it.

And a trained down to 208lb Joe Louis FAR better than a blown up Adamek or Haye. I shudder to think how badly hurt either of these guys would have gotten against Louis.

joe louis has never fought a guy the size of vitali (primo canera was actually smaller then vitali and was by far a WORSE, WORSE fighter then vitali)

joe was good, but i don't think he could deal with the size, and the way vitali uses his height, everytime joe comes in.. vitali is tagging him with a hard jab or a right hand

YOU CANT PRESSURE VITALI... like you can with wlad.. unlike wlad.. vitali will make you pay for trying to pressure him

[nomadman]

After watching Vitali's brother struggle to outpoint Haye, a cruiserweight and watching Vitali go so many rounds with Adamek, a former light heavyweight champ, I realize how silly people are by saying the Klitschko's would beat a great because they are too big. Klischko's fans just refuse to admit Louis was in another class all together. Louis at 210 pounds would breeze through everyone any heavyweight champion today has faced.

Wlad may have looked a little less than perfectly comfortable when fighting Haye, but to say he struggled to outpoint him is ludicrous. And at no point was Adamek even in the fight with Vitali so the number of rounds he went with him is irrelevant.

I agree that anyone that relies upon the Klitschko's size advantage as the crux of their argument is being a little silly. I'd also agree that anyone thinking Louis would smash the Klitschkos because he blew through Abe Simon, Buddy Baer and Primo Carnera is a little more than silly.

Lots of nonsense on both sides.

[nomadman]

The same Haye and Adamek who had a combined 10 fights at heavyweight beating only 1 top 10 fighter apiece? Yup, world beater those two were!

I think it's fair to include both Haye's and Adamek's Cruiserweight fights and even their Light Heavyweight fights in the mix here, considering the size of some of the fighters who were called Heavyweights back in Louis's day. Would you agree?