Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Louis - Who wins?

[hweightblogger]

Louis would be demolished by B-level cruisers these days.

And even YOUR grandmother can see it.

[hweightblogger]

Unlike the Klitschkos..

Carnera threw more punches..was faster...moved better..and could get off the canvas and continue fighting.

Yes, yes, he had this, he had that

But you leave out the MOST important fact: He had a far worse record than Vitali.
Carnera has 14 losses on his record and a 60%+ KOratio.

He scored only 1 KO in heavyweight world title fights (against 201 lbs Sharkey).

Carnera and Vitali are LEAGUES apart.

[BigStereotype]

It's a rough fight for Joe. Vitali is a rough fight for anyone. But I think that Louis is just better than him and it would show. He has faster hands, sharper punches and more one-punch power. Vitali is stronger, but Louis is better at getting his man out of there with one shot. He throws better combinations and fights more effectively on the inside. Vitali has a longer reach, is very good at controlling range and is obviously very strong.

I think that there is a good chance he could knock Louis out. But I also think that Louis has a good chance to chop Vitali down with vicious combinations to the body and head. It's an interesting fight. I have to pick Louis based on class though. More dominant, better resume of wins and I think he could get inside and win it. Tough call though.

[LeG00N]

Joe Louis no doubt

Vitali has beaten noone. He got stopped in his biggest fight and he didn't even face the prime version of his opponent.



This is now a Brown Bomber appreciation thread


This video is amazing

[BigStereotype]

Louis would be demolished by B-level cruisers these days.

And even YOUR grandmother can see it.

Good lord, based on what? Asinine post.

[nomadman]

I love threads like this...

Actually no I hate them. They're filled with polarized idiots who think their opinion is the only one that matters. They're filled with disrespectful turds who think that denigrating the other fighter equates to reasonable debating tactics. Louis was a china chinned bum who fought other bums. Vitali is a poor man's Carnera with zero skills. Whatever. Fcuk the both of you. Fcuck the both of you with a ****kok *******'s atrophied manpole.

Both men fought and beat the best of their era and for that they should be respected. Criticising either man with ludicrous crap like the above posts does nothing but paint you as an idiot who knows very little about boxing, and therefore not someone whose opinion should be respected.

For the record I think Vitali beats Louis, and that's no disrepect to Louis. I also think Carl Froch beats Juan Manuel Marquez. Doesn't mean I respect Marquez any the less.

Louis is a legend. Always was, always will be.

Vitali's no slouch either.

Peace.

[Joeyzagz]

Louis would be demolished by B-level cruisers these days.

And even YOUR grandmother can see it.

Louis "looked" weaker than most of his toughest opponents, yet he still KTFOd them. Hes possibly the most efficient, effective power puncher that ever lived.


Vitali and Primo are very similar, except Primo is stronger, has 32 more knockouts, and did it without the help of steroids.

[Dudley]

Louis "looked" weaker than most of his toughest opponents, yet he still KTFOd them. Hes possibly the most efficient, effective power puncher that ever lived.


Vitali and Primo are very similar, except Primo is stronger, has 32 more knockouts, and did it without the help of steroids.

This thread only highlights how much boxing history is overlooked. It's sad that people don't take the time to read up on what was before. Where do you think guys are learning this stuff now? From scratch? You put in a tape of Joe and see his perfect balance, his technique is far superior to any of today fighters, but because they are all bigger, that makes them better. it's a lie.

Joe in his prime fought guys with no padded gloves, you had to be on your toes at all times. Hoe used to fight 15+ round fights as opposed to todays 12 rounds. Joe also was in the PRIME of boxing when there was an massive influx of boxers who wanted to be world champion. The competition alone would have crushed out most of the fighters today. NYC used to have a boxing gym on every other corner... look how big it is. look how many people live there! smh READ!

[Die Antwoord]

Louis "looked" weaker than most of his toughest opponents, yet he still KTFOd them. Hes possibly the most efficient, effective power puncher that ever lived.


Vitali and Primo are very similar, except Primo is stronger, has 32 more knockouts, and did it without the help of steroids.

Just out of curiosity how many of Primo Carnera's knockouts came from guys who were actually full time professional boxers? Ill be waiting for your response. Have to rig numbers like a fa88ot to even make an argument. He has more KO's than Vitali, holy ****, Joe Bugner has more KO's than Ali, so Joe Bugner was better right. Who cares how many fights they had when you can just pick numbers to try to make a point.

I mean sure Carnera was knocked down 10 times in his savage beating loss to Max Baer the year before Joe Louis beat him, but who gives a **** about that right? I mean Vitali's never been knocked down in his career, but Primo Carnera had more knockouts so he must have been beter. Out of curiosity how many of Carnera's KO's came against guys who never fought under 200 in their career? A year after Joe Louis beat Carnera, a guy named Leroy Haynes who Ive never heard of knocked Carnera out in 3 rounds. BTW Leroy Haynes started his career weighing in the 170's...But yeah, keep making **** up, its what you do, we get it. Vitali retired, embarrassed, and figuratively castrated your hero lennox lewis. He ****d Lennox Lewis's entire legacy that night in Staples Center and exposed him as a fraud and cut his career short. Imh sure you stay up late crying while thinking of all the fights Lewis planned to have before being run out of the sport by Vitali.

[Deal With It]

Louis would be demolished by B-level cruisers these days.

And even YOUR grandmother can see it.

Based on this measurable, you would have to say Carnera is superior to Vitali, correct?

He's bigger, stronger has a longer reach, and if you look at tape of Carnera and compare it to Vitali, he's quicker on his feet, and has better handspeed.

Carnera is CLEARLY athletically superior to Vitali at the very least. He's like both Klitschko's merged into one body. He has Wlad's athleticism, Vitali's style, and was physically stronger than both.

So basically, Louis layed a one sided, 6 round obliteration on a Super-Klitschko.

Yes, yes, he had this, he had that

But you leave out the MOST important fact: He had a far worse record than Vitali.
Carnera has 14 losses on his record and a 60%+ KOratio.

Vitali has a higher KO ratio with only half the sample size.

Let me know what Vitali's KO ratio is after 100+ fights spanning 18 years.

He scored only 1 KO in heavyweight world title fights (against 201 lbs Sharkey).

Vitali has only been in 3 legitimate world title fights.

2 were against journeymen.

In his one lone Heavyweight title fight against a non-journeyman, he was TKO'd in 6 rounds.

Carnera and Vitali are LEAGUES apart.

The one thing we agree on. :boobies:

Vitali is a very poverty stricken man's version of Carnera, and would only survive Carnera's era as a journeyman.