Is the slick defensive style inherently superior?

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  • -Kev-
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    #31
    Originally posted by Light_Speed
    You're trying to be funny but you're embarassing yourself. If you think fighters are either slick or come-forward brawlers then you should just stop following this sport and do us all a favor.
    I think you are trying to stand out too hard.

    People are using examples, and you are in here with a chip on your shoulder, thinking you are the last survivor of some boxing world from another galaxy and you are here to teach us about different styles.


    Kev: I like survivor horror games, like for example, Resident Evil and Dead Space.


    Light Speed: Why are you acting like those are the only two survival horror titles? What about Silent Hill, or Dino Crisis?


    Kev: Dude it was just an example, relax.


    Light Speed: Stop trying to be funny


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    • Left2theliver
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      #32
      On paper, yes. But I think it really depends on weather or not the fighter will be able to pull it off. Not everyone has all the tools to be a slick, defensive boxer just like how not everyone can be a great puncher.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #33
        Originally posted by Light_Speed
        Why are people acting like there are only two styles in boxing?
        You are right not every fighter is one or the other in totality I am just going to polar extremes in this thread to make comparison easier.

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        • Shogunofharlem1
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          #34
          Originally posted by Left2theliver
          On paper, yes. But I think it really depends on weather or not the fighter will be able to pull it off. Not everyone has all the tools to be a slick, defensive boxer just like how not everyone can be a great puncher.
          I agree with this.

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          • Light_Speed
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            #35
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            I think you are trying to stand out too hard.

            People are using examples, and you are in here with a chip on your shoulder, thinking you are the last survivor of some boxing world from another galaxy and you are here to teach us about different styles.
            It's a thread about boxing styles and people only mention 2. I waited and after 2 pages they still only mention slicksters/brawlers so I was like "what's wrong with them?" I'm not trying to stand out, I'm genuinely asking why people are only mentioning two styles so far. Not my fault if my post made you insecure and you felt the need to reply with a joke.

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            • clmags12
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              #36
              Tiger and Shaolin styles! haha!

              IMHO, there is no superior style. Only in each individual match- the superior one is the one which is successfully imposed on his opponent.

              A defensive style vs an aggressive style in a close match, perfect example to me is Whitaker/JCC. IMO I felt Pernell did enough to win, but Julio was aggressive enough to draw it. Getting the judges to give your style a nod is a battle in its own right.

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              • Steak
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                #37
                Most the fighters that are considered the best of all time were actually offensive ones.

                ie Robinson, Armstrong, Moore, Greb, etc

                Reality is it takes a TON of skill to fight offensively and not get your ass kicked in return. so called 'brawlers' who are considered ATGs had a ridiculous amount of skill, you cant go in there with top level fighters and not be defensively sound, particularly when youre the one forcing the fight.

                Not to piss of defensive minded fighters, trust me, I love me some Whitaker and Nicolino Locche...but a fair amount of them are just guys that are physically gifted and can hop out of the way of punches without much skill at all. Not by any means am I saying all defensive fighters fall under that catagory, but its just annoying when people act like just fighting defensively makes you the more skilled fighter...pot shotting and using your natural speed to hop out of range again doesnt make you skilled by any means.

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                • Steak
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                  It helps.

                  I don't think it's the best. You still need some form of offense.

                  Whitaker with a better offense would be rated a waaaaaay higher than he is.
                  Whitaker had a very complete offensive arsenal. He could fight well on the outside, inside, in combos, in counter punching....

                  dont get 'no power' and 'no offense' mixed up. There are multiple times in his career that Whitaker scored some pretty nasty knockouts, ie Hurtado, Lomeli and Nazario, and landed a huge amount of punches on quality opponents, ie Haugen and Azumah Nelson.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #39
                    Yea it is because it is a more efficient style, the less you get hit the less you have to hit the other guy to win. The less a guy needs to do the simpler his job is on fight night.

                    There are other factors involved because you do need to hit the other guy to win but that is a given.

                    It takes a lot to really be a slick guy, it requires a lot of detailed work which requires time, effort, talent and mind set plus having a trainer that knows what he is talking about in that regard. Most guys are not capable of the patience required to make it work.

                    Now it is not for everybody and if that is not a guys strengths they can still be excellent and they can beat slick guys who aren't as good at what they do as what the offensive guy does. If you are talking equal levels I would take the slicker guy every time unless there is some glaring flaw that can be exploited by the guy across from them.

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                    • ramses07
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                      #40
                      dont know which one is better, but i know that when a slick fighter an a brawler get toghether, its a hell of a fight.

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