Is the slick defensive style inherently superior?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #1

    Is the slick defensive style inherently superior?

    I know some ppl think it is and that is fine, I disagree and think better fighters with better gameplans that night impose their style on a fighter no matter the style he typical employs.

    Also if it was there would almost never be any top fighters using a different style.

    what do you think and why?
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    What does this have to do with May or Pac, they are the only fighter who matter to me
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  • turbotime
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    #2
    Of course. Hit and don't be hit, that's boxing.

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    • 510hustler
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      #3
      Not necessarily, but they tend to have longer careers.

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      • Jimbo16031992
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        #4
        The best style is one that brings out a fighter's attributes and his opponent's weaknesses, that's it.

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        • JMM001
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          #5
          if you're a non ducker ................like floyd is..............it is one hell of a style..........

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          • -GDS-
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            #6
            ...this seems like the kinda thread that can go downhill really fast. Alotta code words and such.

            Originally posted by Jimbo16031992
            The best style is one that brings out a fighter's attributes and his opponent's weaknesses, that's it.
            I agree.

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            • -Kev-
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              #7
              It would be very nice if boxing had a win-loss record between every style.


              For example Defensive vs Brawler:

              Defensive: Wins against Brawlers: 15,678
              Brawlers: Wins against Defensive fighters: 4,593


              Who knows, maybe my numbers aren't too far off from the truth.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                Defensive master's seem harder to figure out and beat than the best of brawlers.

                But of course, that's not always the case, at all.

                There's has been plenty of examples where the brawler has beaten the defensive wizard.

                Pep-Saddler brings to mind instantly.

                And there's plenty more.

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                • cupocity303
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                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  I know some ppl think it is and that is fine, I disagree and think better fighters with better gameplans that night impose their style on a fighter no matter the style he typical employs.

                  Also if it was there would almost never be any top fighters using a different style.

                  what do you think and why?
                  You're saying this under the presumption that it's easy to be a genuine slick, defensive fighter. It's not. There are fighters who would love not to get their face beaten up every fight, but they have no choice. They're blood and guts warriors, by default.

                  Arturo Gatti tried incorporating slickness and defense and it didn't work. Some fighters just have no rhythm and athletic ability to move around and at best do some bob and weaving like Joe Frazier. A lot of em' have heavy feet (i.e. Powlak last night as one example)

                  There are a lot of fighters trying to do the Shoulder roll now like Floyd, but most of them can't do it as effectively or consistently.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cupocity303
                    You're saying this under the presumption that it's easy to be a genuine slick, defensive fighter. It's not. There are fighters who would love not to get their face beaten up every fight, but they have no choice. They're blood and guts warriors, by default.

                    Arturo Gatti tried incorporating slickness and defense and it didn't work. Some fighters just have no rhythm and athletic ability to move around and at best do some bob and weaving like Joe Frazier. A lot of em' have heavy feet (i.e. Powlak last night as one example)

                    There are a lot of fighters trying to do the Shoulder roll now like Floyd, but most of them can't do it as effectively or consistently.
                    this is basically what i was thinkin
                    slick defensive fighter isn't so much a style as it is a talent

                    carl froch also admitted he wishes he didn't get hit so much, but there's nothing he can do if he doesn't have the genetics

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