It's time for everyone to admit that Margarito cheated

[UglyPug]

im inclined to agree, check - i believe margarito used plaster against cotto in the first fight. . he is cotto's PAPI NO MORE!


HOWEVER, Margarito is still very much sergio martinez's PAPI! FOREVER HIS PAPI!!!

POPPA TONY!!! says, sergio!

[Khalid X]

Ever think the only reason Cotto was able to maintain that great movement is because he wasn't getting hit with plaster?

I've have seen enough of your post to realize your an idiot who doens't know **** about the sport of boxing. At first I thought you were just joking, because I think everyone on here post troll threads/replies to lighten up the board, but you are in idiot mode 24/7

If you know anything about boxing, you know that you can get on the ropes against Margarito, not clinch, take punch after punch, and not expect to get busted up.

These guys are professional for a reason, and you can't let another pro boxer load up on you round after round. I'm sure even a feather fisted guy like Malignaggi would bust someone up (maybe not severly tho) if he unloaded on them repeated.

[11Hopeful]

You're the homey but you're tripping with the bold. Cotto won that fight for himself. Why didn't Pacman win that fight for Margarito?

Because Cotto knew when to back away after receiving damage. Margarito has already been ready to die in the ring.

[Einstien]

the truth is obvious and anyone that dont see it is dumb or blinded by their flag

[Check]

How does last night prove anything? Margarito hardly landed anything compared to the first fight and Cotto still looked beat up. It's really idiotic to speculate because of the inactivity that he has had since that fight. I really think it's time for Tony to retire because man that eye has taken so much punishment his last 2 fights. No need to keep putting in harms way

If you read my post you would realize that last nights fight is only ONE factor for the argument. Cotto did look beat up but like I said he looked beat up against feather fisted Yuri Foreman. That argument doesn't hold any ground. The same kind of punches were lander, Margarito didn't lose any power, yet they really never hurt or caused Miguel much trouble.

[BoxingGenius27]

I've have seen enough of your post to realize your an idiot who doens't know **** about the sport of boxing. At first I thought you were just joking, because I think everyone on here post troll threads/replies to lighten up the board, but you are in idiot mode 24/7

If you know anything about boxing, you know that you can get on the ropes against Margarito, not clinch, take punch after punch, and not expect to get busted up.

These guys are professional for a reason, and you can't let another pro boxer load up on you round after round. I'm sure even a feather fisted guy like Malignaggi would bust someone up (maybe not severly tho) if he unloaded on them repeated.

First off, Bushbaby and everyone else says this to you for a reason:

I'm impressed. I was expecting your usual ******ity, but this post wasn't half bad!!

Secondly, Margarito has always been durable with a chin. But based on his last 4 fights, he obviously doesn't have the same power he had before the Cotto fight.

My theory is this. Marg could've landed the same way in the first fight without the plaster and it wouldn't have had the same effect that it had on him in the first fight. I think the only reason Marg was continuously able to land is because he was hurting Cotto in the first fight and Marg's shots were taking energy from him. But it was the additives taking energy, not Marg.

Cotto did change the strategy up in the 2nd fight, but you can't implement that strategy when you're getting hit by plaster.

[UglyPug]

If you read my post you would realize that last nights fight is only ONE factor for the argument. Cotto did look beat up but like I said he looked beat up against feather fisted Yuri Foreman. That argument doesn't hold any ground. The same kind of punches were lander, Margarito didn't lose any power, yet they really never hurt or caused Miguel much trouble.

right. . . i don't even think he looked that beat up. . . just your average nicks and minor swelling. . . in the first fight, his face BLEW UP after the 6th or so. .. coinciding with the theory of the substance hardening. .


i always like to give the fighter the benefit of the doubt, but im having a hard time giving it to margarito.

[boxing2106]

He obviously cheated

[TintaBoricua]

Naw, Im not butt hurt. I give Cotto credit for the win. But IMO all he did was run all night, and fought like he was scared to get hit.

Because Margarito does have power, something biased PR's and other posters disregard.

Margarito can still beat decent opposition because, to be fair, his past three losses came to against elite fighters. You can say, "Well, maybe he had a bad night against Mosley." and you can forgive him for losing to Pacquiao since after all, it IS Pacquiao. He also gave a good effort last night, but that eye just doesn't hold up anymore and Cotto was boxing nicely.

I'll be honest, I wasn't thrilled last night as I was for other fights. I was very happy Cotto won but by the sixth or eighth round where Cotto seemed to have gotten past the rough spots and that eye was looking horrible, any drama died. It was just a matter of time before Margarito got stopped. I was fiddling around with my cellphone and everyone was going, "What the hell are you doing?! Watch the Goddamn fight!!!"

I was genuinely more on the edge of my seat for Mayweather/Ortiz than this one, at least throughout the whole fight. Margarito just had too many hurdles to overcome to win the rematch: layoff, eye, track record post-Cotto, hometown disadvantage...

It was just too much...

[hrtshpdbox]

Margs Given Raw Deal

I'll reserve the right to reappraise after seeing the films, but from my seat last night at the Garden it seemed to me that Margarito won rounds 3, 4, and 9, and possibly one other. If he won the final three (and there's no doubt in my mind he would have been willing and able to fight them), it would have still have been daunting to get a decision if the judges had bought into the "good guy vanquishes bad guy" meme that HBO was flogging, but the momentum had clearly turned in his favor. The hugely pro-Cotto crowd around me was concerned for the first time after that 9th, where Margarito rocked Cotto convincingly and provided much of the damage you can see to Cotto's face in the post-fight interview. The ring doctor's hemming and hawing about the stoppage was comical; what's the point of Margarito getting the clean bill of health for the fight if you're going to then contend that the prior eye injury is in the "back of your mind" as a factor for the stoppage? There was no evidence that Marg's eye was suffering any extraordinary damage from being swelled shut, and surely fighters continue to battle (and sometimes win) looking much worse than that. Cotto's contention that this "proves" Tony used plaster mitts the first time around was laughable; if anything, what Tony did to Cotto last night in 9 rounds put the fight right on track to be where it was after 11 last time around. Cotto was fading by the 9th last night; disoriented, holding, nothing explosive left when the clinches broke. Kellerman's ridiculous fantasy that Tony was getting beat up in the 9th just feeds into their "justice served" storyline; one of the best things for me about being at the fight was not having to listen HBO's bizarro-world pronouncements about what it all means. At any rate, with everything stacked against him it's not much of a surprise how it went down, but it's still worth pointing out that Margarito was robbed.