It's time for everyone to admit that Margarito cheated

[jrosales13]

Start naming them then. I listed countless amount of LOGICAL reasons why he would of cheated in the first meeting. Your arrogant ass lists a one liner. Start listing.

There was issues going in with the Mosley camp that there wasn't for the Cotto camp.

There was talks even before the Mosley fight took place that he was getting beat up by sparring partners, he got fat in between the fight, he also had a bum back/ankle I don't remember, they had a scale for the Mosley fight that read Marg was over 2pounds in the hotel room...The scale was off and in reality he was on weight...But, since the scale read 2 pounds over they went and lost 2 pounds that they didn't need to lose. Hence why he weighed in at 145 against Mosley.

All of that could have made Capetillo nervous and decided to do something illegal. Doesn't make it right though.

But, those are/were reasons of him cheating with Mosley and the first time doing it.

People will believe what they want though.

I will say this Mosley had Marg number regardless, Mosley wasn't going to be denied that night. Even if it was Marg going in there a 100% Mosley would have beaten him regardless.

[BoxingGenius27]

I don't think we should focus on the reasoning behind Marg using plaster against Mosley and not Cotto.

I think we should focus on why his plaster wraps were proven to be "PRE-USED" and who he used them previously with. This should be the focus since we're objectively speaking.

[Ido]

There's no leg to stand on any longer, the reasons just keep piling up. Lets take a quick look at why Margarito would cheat against Shane Mosley but not Miguel Cotto.

In the Shane Mosley fight, as we all know Margarito was caught for illegal wraps. Looking back at this fight we will notice that Margarito was a huge favorite(why cheat), had homecourt advantage, and all the confidence in the world from winning the biggest fight of his career. One of the reasons why he was a huge favorite was Shane Mosley, an old guy that most thought was washed up and done was coming off the Ricardo Mayorga fight where he looked very poor except for the last few seconds and like I said Margarito was coming off his biggest fight, a fight where most spectators considered Margarito some kind of monster.

Rewind to the first Cotto fight and you see the direct opposite. Cotto was young, coming off impressive win after impressive win, and was a 2:1 favorite coming in. Margarito was an after thought, this was Miguels coming out party. Remember Margarito before hand was fighting on Miguels undercard versus a guy named Golden Johnson. This was his last chance and he certainly couldn't afford another loss(already had 5 going in).

So why? Why would a guy cheat in a fight with all the advantages possible but not in the fight where his back was against the wall? A fight that he had to win?

Fast forward to last nights fight, more evidence. Margarito was landing the same punches and it clearly didn't have the same power behind it. Power is the last thing a fighters losses, yet it wasn't there. People are quick to point out that Miguel was still swollen but Miguel was swollen against powderpuff Yuri Foreman. The fight against Margarito has left his skin very tender and he's going to swell no matter way, so that argument goes out the window.

It's sad that he had to cheat, it really is. IMO, even a confession isn't enough because the damage has affected the way Miguel fights. It made him gun shy in the Pac fight and derailed a career that could of been legendary. It's sad, it really is but I'm glad the book is closed and Miguel can move on but people need to accept that on that summer night in 2008, there was illegal wraps used.

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[DiegoFuego]

He cheated. Probably his whole career once he saw he had no skills and couldn't hurt anybody with a decent beard. He got caught and he's been exposed. End of story. Hopefully he's dumb enough to keep getting back in the ring so he can get what he has coming to him.

[Khalid X]

One thing I want to add is that you can't sit on the ropes against Tony, take punches and not expect to get hurt.

I mean look at how Pacquiao was playing on the ropes against Margarito, got hurt and almost dropped by Margarito.

If any opponent is on the ropes for a sustained period against Tony, they will get busted up...period, which is what Cotto did a lot of in the first fight.

This is why I don't buy the "Cotto was busted up, so Margarito must have used loaded wraps" excuss from Cotto fans.

If an elite fighter like Pacquiao can get hurt and even busted up by a few shots against Margarito, why are people shocked that Cotto looked like road kill when spent the entire second half there as well as took several unanswered shots?

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There was issues going in with the Mosley camp that there wasn't for the Cotto camp.

There was talks even before the Mosley fight took place that he was getting beat up by sparring partners, he got fat in between the fight, he also had a bum back/ankle I don't remember, they had a scale for the Mosley fight that read Marg was over 2pounds in the hotel room...The scale was off and in reality he was on weight...But, since the scale read 2 pounds over they went and lost 2 pounds that they didn't need to lose. Hence why he weighed in at 145 against Mosley.

All of that could have made Capetillo nervous and decided to do something illegal. Doesn't make it right though.

But, those are/were reasons of him cheating with Mosley and the first time doing it.

People will believe what they want though.

I will say this Mosley had Marg number regardless, Mosley wasn't going to be denied that night. Even if it was Marg going in there a 100% Mosley would have beaten him regardless.

Fair enough. Certainly don't agree though. I'm sure Marg through his career had problems and had more stiffer challenges(Williams,Cotto) than a stiff back.

[Khalid X]

He cheated. Probably his whole career once he saw he had no skills and couldn't hurt anybody with a decent beard. He got caught and he's been exposed. End of story. Hopefully he's dumb enough to keep getting back in the ring so he can get what he has coming to him.

Manny has one of the best chins in boxing and was hurt and almost knockdown against Margarito.

[Check]

One thing I want to add is that you can't sit on the ropes against Tony, take punches and not expect to get hurt.

I mean look at how Pacquiao was playing on the ropes against Margarito, got hurt and almost dropped by Margarito.

If any opponent is on the ropes for a sustained period against Tony, they will get busted up...period, which is what Cotto did a lot of in the first fight.

This is why I don't buy the "Cotto was busted up, so Margarito must have used loaded wraps" excuss from Cotto fans.

If an elite fighter like Pacquiao can get hurt and even busted up by a few shots against Margarito, why are people shocked that Cotto looked like road kill when spent the entire second half there as well as took several unanswered shots?

There's no doubt Miguel fought a better fight, but Marg still got his shots in and didn't seem as effective with them. I loved how the smaller Cotto was pushing around the bigger man in there.

[jrosales13]

Fair enough. Certainly don't agree though. I'm sure Marg through his career had problems and had more stiffer challenges(Williams,Cotto) than a stiff back.

I remember Eaner saying it was to the point that it needed surgery.

The way Cotto fought it was just ******...If Marg would have had plaster last night... Cotto would have still won. He fought a much different smart type of fight. Plus Marg pre-damaged eye. But, I'm happy for Cotto I know he wanted this win really bad.

[clmags12]

Is Margarito a cheater? He almost did with Mosley. So, yes.

You cannot compare the 2 fights. Cotto did a much better job of avoiding Margs. Whether he used them in the first fight with Cotto, it will probably be never known. IMHO, he did.

Even though, Cotto/Margarito I is an instant classic. It will be forever labeled as "su****ious".