Was roy jones a paper champ?

[Nautilus]

Yeah he would have eaten him and his children. Roy was the man

DM had a great KO power, he wold probably end Roys career very early.

Roy knew this and avoided DM.

How do I know? Well, I do not.

[Dark Destroyer]

DM had a great KO power, he wold probably end Roys career very early.

Roy knew this and avoided DM.

How do I know? Well, I do not.

I seriously do not believe that DM would have ended Roy in his prime. I have seen plenty of DM fights and don't think he could have done much against a prime Roy.

[Nautilus]

I seriously do not believe that DM would have ended Roy in his prime. I have seen plenty of DM fights and don't think he could have done much against a prime Roy.

I do not really know, but I will trust your judgement ... (on this one ).

[Dark Destroyer]

I do not really know, but I will trust your judgement ... (on this one ).

Nautilus have you seen many fights of Roy in his prime?

[Nautilus]

Nautilus have you seen many fights of Roy in his prime?

No, just a couple against bums.


I would love to see RJJ vs Toney and RJJ vs Hopkins.

[zoo]

Look, Roy Jones Jr was a paper champ, that is obvious. You can argue he was the best in every division he fought in, but that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't the man who beat the man. The minute you throw that principle out the window you surrender your will to the sanctioning bodies.

Back in 1988 Mike Tyson had all the heavyweight titles, but the true champ was obviously Michael Spinks, he beat Larry Holmes. If Jones had did what Tyson did we wouldn't even be having this debate.

[marvdave]

All the belt crap is meaningless. More so now than ever. If someone wants to say DM is the "linear" champ, whatever. If someone is trying to say DM was a better fighter or deserves more reconition Jones, that is blatant bias.

I can't stand Roy Jones myself, but it is silly to try and compare him with DM. No comparison imo. Jones is by far the better fighter and will be remembered as such.

this whole thread reminds me of the good old Wlad threads.

[Neuraxis]

All the belt crap is meaningless. More so now than ever. If someone wants to say DM is the "linear" champ, whatever. If someone is trying to say DM was a better fighter or deserves more reconition Jones, that is blatant bias.

I can't stand Roy Jones myself, but it is silly to try and compare him with DM. No comparison imo. Jones is by far the better fighter and will be remembered as such.

this whole thread reminds me of the good old Wlad threads.

Why? Because Wlad is a glass chinned fraud just like Roy Jones Jr.

[HayeFan]

No.

Roy Jones Jr was the greatest fighter of my generation.

[Dkknight]

Jones defeated Hopkins and Toney, who are two of the best out there, Darius would have lost to both Hopkins and Toney.

I have to agree with this opinion. Hopkins and Toney are great fighters and Jones made them look silly.

Belts aside, Jones is one of the most skilled fighters of our time. He had amazing lightning speed, and he had power to go with it. In his prime he could beat pretty much anyone b/c of his speed and ability to dodge a punch, and also b/c of his hand speed. He could throw combinations quicker than anyone. Someone mentioned something about walking Jones down and that's all they had to do to win the fight... that's easier said than done. And even if they did do that, which is what Toney was doing, he could come back with quick combinations and easily avoid punches.

So if you want to talk about belts all day and who was robbed and who should have had what.. go right ahead. But when we're talking about SKILL, theres no comparison and you can't deny Jones that regardless if he was a "paper champ" or not.