Was roy jones a paper champ?

[bpapa420]

DM was the champ at lt heavy for as long as I can remember. Here comes jones, an hbo fighter fighting garbage men and cops for a living. He got a title from a fighter that was unjustly stripped. HBO promotes him as the next big thing. Now that he has lost to 2 average fighters at best, can you really argue that DM was the real champ.

[neils7147933]

At what weight?

The only one I can accept an argument is at lt. heavy.

He earned his middleweight and heavyweight titles, obviously.

[bpapa420]

No this is about the lt heavy division

[neils7147933]

No this is about the lt heavy division

In that case, he was a credible champion, but not an undisputed champion.

We could argue that most champs are paper champs unless they defeat the agreed upon top challengers, and none of the alphabet organizations can agree who the top contenders are.

The whole 'beat the man to be the man' thing doesn't always work, but it's a good measuring stick, and Jones doesn't meet that qualification.

[Mr. Ryan]

Then that Letterlough guy is the lightheavyweight champ I guess. Julio Gonzalez beat Michaelzcewski, bue lost to Letterlough.

[bpapa420]

How do you say it doesnt work. It has been recorded that the wbc stripped a champ to give roy a title. The wbc got the pants sued off them recently for this. So HBO says your a champ and everyone buys into this?

I guess brewster and james toney are champs also

[jack_the_rippuh]

He would have killed DM and you know it.

[bpapa420]

Why do I know it? Oh yeah he fought and beat all of those credible opponents before tarver. Sorry I forgot

[spinksjinx]

How do you say it doesnt work. It has been recorded that the wbc stripped a champ to give roy a title. The wbc got the pants sued off them recently for this. So HBO says your a champ and everyone buys into this?

I guess brewster and james toney are champs also

After Roy won the heavyweight belt and went back down to light heavy to face Tarver their was HUUUUUUUUGE controversy on who would go to the ring first, Tarver said im the man with the belt, I go it is just rule of thumb. Roy then argued, Well I vacated those belts and left as the champ and I am back, so I am going to the ring first.

So the whole bull**** got printed and the IBO got wind of this and the IBO put their light heavyweight belt on Jones so he could go to the ring first, thinking it would gain notoriety and gain recognition....

It failed.

[bpapa420]

I usually dont count people like that as champs. If fans got together and decided not to support these paper chumps boxing would be better today. I am a firm believer of the linear title.