Was roy jones a paper champ?

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  • Soundtraveler
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    #21
    DM never really wanted any part of Jones when Jones was in his prime, and if they had fought with both fighters being in their prime, Jones would have beaten DM with ease - it wouldn't even be close. DM knew this, and so did his manager, don't be fooled by the DM linear champ crap, it means nothing.

    Roy Jones was perhaps the most skilled fighter I have ever seen, in his prime nobody could hit the man, but he dropped plenty of fighters when he hit them. The fighters that he didn't KO he made look like they were going in slow motion, he had more speed for his size than anyone else that you could name....

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    • Neuraxis
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      #22
      Originally posted by LuKahnLi
      It doesn't matter if he beat DM. The lineal championship line was already cut when DM beat Hill. This is moot.
      Because that makes any sense.

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      • Neuraxis
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        #23
        Originally posted by Soundtraveler
        DM never really wanted any part of Jones when Jones was in his prime, and if they had fought with both fighters being in their prime, Jones would have beaten DM with ease - it wouldn't even be close. DM knew this, and so did his manager, don't be fooled by the DM linear champ crap, it means nothing.

        Roy Jones was perhaps the most skilled fighter I have ever seen, in his prime nobody could hit the man, but he dropped plenty of fighters when he hit them. The fighters that he didn't KO he made look like they were going in slow motion, he had more speed for his size than anyone else that you could name....
        DM has something that everyone who fought RJJ at LHW didn't have, power. After beating Hill he was 14-0 with 14 KOs.

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        • damonbleed
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          #24
          I think people who hate Roy Jones are just as delusional as his fans.Even if you hate the man you have to aknowledge that he was great and he didn't get "exposed" until he was 35 years old.

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          • Soundtraveler
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            #25
            Originally posted by Neuraxis
            DM has something that everyone who fought RJJ at LHW didn't have, power. After beating Hill he was 14-0 with 14 KOs.

            You can have all the power in the world, but if you can't land a shot, you will lose just the same. Roy was much too fast in his prime for the rather slow DM (when comparing the two).

            I am not saying DM isn't a good fighter - he is good, but he also has had the benefit of not having to face many of the top fighters outside his own country, even his home state if you will. He has almost always had the "homecourt" advantage throughout his career. In essence, he has had a very good promoter who knew how to keep his fighters' record in tact - and that included talking about Roy Jones, but not getting in the ring with him, even in a nuetral country...
            Last edited by Soundtraveler; 12-29-2004, 02:11 PM.

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            • KJ
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              #26
              Prime jones would have outboxed Michalczewski, I think.

              Jones had titles enough:
              The WBC Light Heavyweight Title,,WBA Light Heavyweight Title,IBF Light Heavyweight Title,WBF Light Heavyweight Title,IBA Light Heavyweight Title,NBA Light Heavyweight Title
              And I still think that the 3 real titles are: IBF, WBC, WBA. (So not WBO)

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              • bpapa420
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                #27
                If jones would beat DM so easily, why not take the risk to go to the CHAMPS country and fight for the real title?

                Oh, I forgot, roid was with HBO, he didn't need to take risks

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                • Soundtraveler
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bpapa420
                  If jones would beat DM so easily, why not take the risk to go to the CHAMPS country and fight for the real title?

                  Oh, I forgot, roid was with HBO, he didn't need to take risks

                  After what happened to Roy at the Olympics, would you go to DM's hometown and look to get a decision? Besides, Roy was the Champ, not DM. Roy offered to fight DM in a nuetral country but DM refused.

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                  • Neuraxis
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by KJ
                    Prime jones would have outboxed Michalczewski, I think.

                    Jones had titles enough:
                    The WBC Light Heavyweight Title,,WBA Light Heavyweight Title,IBF Light Heavyweight Title,WBF Light Heavyweight Title,IBA Light Heavyweight Title,NBA Light Heavyweight Title
                    And I still think that the 3 real titles are: IBF, WBC, WBA. (So not WBO)
                    And DM had the Lineal, IBF, WBA, and WBO titles at light heavyweight and the WBO at cruiserweight. And he should have had the WBC at light heavyweight had the WBC not stolen the belt from Rocchiagini and given it to RJJ.

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                    • Neuraxis
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Soundtraveler
                      Roy offered to fight DM in a nuetral country but DM refused.
                      I don't think that this is true.

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