My Top 20 fighters Ever

[SCtrojansbaby]

Pernell Whitaker is a joke no way you can justify having him over Roy, Monzon, Foreman Hopkins, Barrera etc

[jrosales13]

I have Langford and Charles in my top 5.

I don't know about Roy and Marciano being top 20.

But, it's a solid list.

[jrosales13]

Pernell Whitaker is a joke no way you can justify having him over Roy, Monzon, Foreman Hopkins, Barrera etc

This guy.

[sammiza567]

ill get **** for saying this so ill wait till hes retired but money may will be top 10 when its all said and done, possiby higher.

[turbotime]

Top of my head;

Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charlea
Archie Moore
Benny Leonard
Jimmy Mclarnin
Bob Fitzsimmons
Muhammad Ali

To be honest I'll concede that I actually found it suprisingly difficult to name 10 fighter with solely better wins than Ray Leonard.

The problem is there are so many fighters with much stronger depth of wins than him.


Ahh, my bad. He's right there at #19.

That being said, #19 is still criminally crimainlly low for a Top 5 ATG like Sam Langford.

Jack Johnson and more so Pernell Whitaker are both great fighters. But simply don't have the resume to justify that kind of ranking.

Hmm, ****** Wizard and Langford were great, but i'll take Leonard's wins over Duran, Benitez, Hagler, and Hearns over Tendler, Gans, Cline, Walcott any day of the week.

[IronDanHamza]

Pernell Whitaker is a joke no way you can justify having him over Roy, Monzon, Foreman Hopkins, Barrera etc

How dare you......

.....Leave out Virgill Hill from the obvious names that he's behind!

[IronDanHamza]

Hmm, ****** Wizard and Langford were great, but i'll take Leonard's wins over Duran, Benitez, Hagler, and Hearns over Tendler, Gans, Cline, Walcott any day of the week.

I don't think there's any argument that Benny Leonard has a stronger resume than Ray Leonard.

Benny Leonard has one of the strongest resume's of all time, IMO.

As does Sam Langford.

[Mr. Fantastic]

All of them except Greb. I have a ton of books as well that I used to compile the research.

How can you put Greb on there then? Specially at #4 if you haven't seen him fight. I applaud you though for seeing the rest fight. Most people would make a list with only seeing like 4-6 guys fighting.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Pernell Whitaker's best win is moving up to beat Julio Cesar Vasquez.

other than that he beat Nelson at weight Nelson CLEARLY wasn't meant to fight at
he beat Mcgirt 2x nice wins but nothing special
he beat Ramirez(in their rematch) when Ramirez was clearly past it
And of course his fantasy wins against Chavez, De La Hoya and Ramirez(1st fight)

Sorry nice resume but no reasonable person could justify having him being over Monzon Roy Barrera Foreman etc

[turbotime]

I don't think there's any argument that Benny Leonard has a stronger resume than Ray Leonard.

Benny Leonard has one of the strongest resume's of all time, IMO.

As does Sam Langford.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. Don't know why we're arguing since we both rank him top 10

I can't rank Fitz top 10. I just can't. He beat A LOT of bums, and lost, by KO, to most of the best fighters he fought.