I want proof Margarito used plaster against Cotto.

[Easy-E]

I have a pimple on my backside...the question is..why should I not scratch it.....

[edgarg]

When Cotto sees the punches don't hurt so bad and Margarito does not have a chance. The mental advantage of knowing he had plaster is a point a lot of people forget - boxing is 75% MENTAL son, its a big excuse for a lot of Margarito's reasons for him losing to Mosley. Dudes are contradictory at BEST. Like supporting DLH when speaking of Trinidad but he is not a real Mexican when speaking of him quitting on his stool and dressing like a puta.

Margarito has looked like a bum since the Cotto fight for a reason. He lost every round to Pacman, just walking into punches all night, and so he took them...big deal. That is his only strength, he better keep the pressure on. All the jibber jabber about Cotto not hurting him was a lie as well, because normal boxing fans know they both left something in the ring.

Also, Capetillo was banned for life, meanwhile all they found were microscopic traces of kitchen items??? Please! He should be in Margs' corner right now! He has not announced any plans to re register nor will he; he is done and all you guys know it. Never seen any document or official apology from the commission to Capetillo and Margarito for being suspended and banned. This info is a rumor and came out of some Margarito supporters mouth.

****m said a block came out, period. It was hardened wraps guys get over it. Cheato is not a real warrior, and all I ask is when Cotto beats the **** out of him that you guys admit he cheated in the first fight - especially if the fight is one sided. Admit it, admit he is a chump for cheating and fooling you idiots into believing having heart is to die in front of your family. Same dudes talk smack about Trinidad, the same man who in all his losses never took a step back, AND could box better than Margarito could dream of. Contradiction at it's best. Come see me here on the 3rd guys, no excuses these men both been ****ted on by Pacman.

All you cornball dudes forget that Margarito already pleaded ignorance to the commission, saying he did not feel anything, not saying there was no plaster because they were shoving it in his face like, "you know this isn't a normal wrap papa." Capetillo took the blame for that **** and Margarito said he did not know about it, period.

Margs has no answer for any of these questions. Anyone who knows humans know he acts guilty and shameful too. Smiling all the time, hiding behind shades. Innocent people cannot tolerate being accused. Don't just laugh it off like some idiot posted earlier. It's basic human psychology, read a book guy.
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You sound more than a bit crazy. practically everything you say is either not true, or twisted. The Commission did not mention a "block" this came only from Richardson when he was enlarging on his original "discovery" of the used gauze pad. You ignore the official findings, and you ignore many other things which do not favour your lunatic presumptions. Unless you could stop exaggerating and twisting facts, it's useless to discuss with a devoted rumourmonger like you are showing yourself to be.

Instead of blatting about "Bricks" (for heavens sake) falling out of bandages (I suppose they made a big dent in the floor, not to mention the thud) why don't you post the actual true, factual FINDINGS OF THE COMMISSION, as well as the actual, true, FINDINGS OF THE LABORATORIES which conducted the analyses.....Then please show us how you can convert simple "TRACES" of a common substance, into a Plaster-of-Paris BRICK, (disguised as a simple used gauze pad) when it is missing vital ingredients which could make it into Plaster-of-Paris. Also please SHOW us....without a wink, so that we'll know you are serious, that the trace substances found by analysis, are NOT commonly found in kitchens around the world. I've already read a dozen articles which say they are, and I defy you to find even ONE which says they are NOT.

Also, as a piece de resistance, why not post an official result of the analysis of a plain piece of NEW, unused gauze, just to see if it already contains traces similiar to those found, since this is always a consideration.

In other words, a witch hunter like you reminds me of the Salem witchhumters, crazy as loons and dangerous to their fellow man.
It should tax your imagination to the utmost, and be good reading.

[AllEyesOpen]

Now there's nothing but speculation about what happened in the first Marg/Cotto fight, and truth is we will never really know, mostly because Cotto's corner did not do their jobs, but considering how desperately some obsessed fans are grasping at straws, i can't help but imagine what they will claim if/when Marg does the exact same thing with no so called plaster in his gloves.

Fact is, no one; not Cotto's corner, not the commission rep, no one can say Marg used illegal wraps against Cotto because there is absolutly no evidence to support it.

[AlacranMX]

Rip la migra

[edgarg]

initially, his camp admitted that they were reusing old wraps... then Capetillo recently he said that he didn't know what he was using... that the wraps were there when he got into the locker room.

When have you ever heard of a fighter re-using handwraps?? a Millionare boxer, reusing wraps? really? Come on. They've used it before by Capetillo's own admission. The question is when did they use them?? in sparring or in other fights? Oh, and interestingly enough, the substance had a pink stain just like what was seen in the photo of Margarito's handwraps after the Cotto fight.

Whether he used them against Cotto or not is all speculation. However, you must consider that any fighter that would use Plaster of Paris is a fighter that is willing to use ANY advantage to win a fight. In a sport like boxing, this cannot and should not be tolerated. Margarito should have been banned from boxng for life.

Why don't you guys stick to the FACTS. They were NOT used wraps, it was a used gauze pad, the WRAPS were new as per regulations the pad was not.

[edgarg]

Now there's nothing but speculation about what happened in the first Marg/Cotto fight, and truth is we will never really know, mostly because Cotto's corner did not do their jobs, but considering how desperately some obsessed fans are grasping at straws, i can't help but imagine what they will claim if/when Marg does the exact same thing with no so called plaster in his gloves.

Fact is, no one; not Cotto's corner, not the commission rep, no one can say Marg used illegal wraps against Cotto because there is absolutly no evidence to support it.

It's about time someone talked some common sense and truth about this nonsense. I was beginning to think the whole boxing following had gone crazy. They even make up the most fantastic lies about the Margarito-Mosley fight. They talk about "bricks" etc. Even Dan Rafael supposedly the most accurate of the boxing journalists, wrote originally that Margarito had been found with a plaster-like substance coating his hand wraps. it sounded exactly like something that Sherlock Richardson would say, or the local taxidriver. All he could have truthfully said was that they found a used gauze pad in the wrappings when it should have been new. The analysis, which found traces of 2 plaster-of-paris components (but not the vital one) was not announced until later, and they were only traces. The Federal Authorities dropped it. I suppose the fact that the components were also found in a multitude of other manufactured items including particularly, many cosmetic products, decided them. Maybe they believed, like I do, that it was a trace of some absorbent powder.

I've seen reports which said the traces were from hand cream, and I suppose that hand cream does contain these things. And as it was also reported that the pad had been handled by 14 people before reaching the laboratory, this is a possibility.

An inportant fact NEVER mentioned is that Arum instituted a suit against the Commission asking that they show that the gauze pad contained anything which could be harmful to a fighter. The suit was never defended. These things are important but never mentioned since they would ruin the whole sensational fiction.

As some mathematicians like to say, 40 times Zero is still Zero.

[edgarg]

1. You've answered my 1 post, 3 consecutive times now. I do have other posts in this thread that are asking for your replies. haha I like messing with you Edgarg.

2. Dan Rafael isn't part of this conspiracy theory against Margarito that you and Bazooka seem to think is going on. You say "The whole world knows". Yes, the whole world knows that Marg is guilty, except for you and a few guys running around NSB.

We could chit-chat about this thing all day and never resolve it. I didn't SAY that Rafael was a part of a conspiracy, I was pointing out that even a reputedly reliable writer had fallen into the fantasy trap. He was probably repeating something our friend the Towel Flapper told him. The points I am constantly trying to make clear are, that there were NO BRICKS. There were NO PLASTER COATED WRAPS. And that there were only TRACES of 2 very common household and manufacturing ingredients, WITHOUT the nessary other ingredient nor the QUANTITY to make a plaster-of paris pad. And that all Margarito was penalised for was "Because you are the head of the team". Otherwiase he was found not to know anything about it, in other words, completely innocent.

It should be a simple matter, considering the actual facts, but we are dealing with a particularly mindless and imbecilic part of the sports world, the crazy fan. And i suppose many of these creatures are not even fans, but lunatics of the kind that meet flying saucer crew members on lonely roads at 3 in the morning etc.etc.

[javielo]

IMO Margarito did cheat and there are many factors in the fight and after the fight that support this. In one round his corner told him not to get confident and asked him how is your punch power coming?????????? hehehe weird question to ask; it is so obvious when he was throwing uppercuts with the left hand aka plaster punch hand!.

Then he had the same wrap he was going to use with Mosley with the same red spot in the same area which makes it more obvious. There is an interview also in youtube you can look for it they ask Margarito about the fight and he talks about the "MANOPLA" he said versus Cotto he has the right "MANOPLA" and everyone knows that a "MANOPLA" is an illegal item. I will post the video here for all of you to see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSRlcxsOIw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Xky5AAGKI - see it at 19 seconds he mentions the MANOPLA LOL AKA Brassknuckle or armored fist.

I rest my case... lol anyone thinking that Margarito did not cheat is either ****** or blind.

Also to Margarito's credit I think he could have won the fight without the plaster because Cotto gets tired after 7 rounds but then he was also hitting Margarito all over the place and he obviously got hurt by the plaster it takes away a lot from anyone if you dont believe it ask Cintron he cried he said to his corner this guy hits like he got bricks in his gloves.

I think this fight is unfair because Cotto will deny any damage but he has been damaged he is not the same and it is not fair to see Cotto fight this criminal again. I think Cotto has everything to lose and had nothing to prove and he is giving Margarito the chance of a lifetime the chance to make some people think that he did not cheat the first time however watch Cotto's face after the fight on Dec 3rd this will be enough evidence that Margarito can not punch at all and that he actually used plaster the first time.

This is my personal opinion so dont take this personal please let me know what you guys think!

[edgarg]

100% Correct. He did say that and has changed the story every time he is asked about.




Dude, wake up and R E A D he said: pink stain

Never said, blood or any of the like. Dont be a close minded moron!



Im with you. Cheated or not, its the Cotto camp to blame since they did not send anyone to inspect the hand wrapping.

When the Margarito team was presented with the opportunity to cheat, they simply took it!

Bazooka says that he was telling people that he was supporting COTTO'S comment that it was just a pink stain, but that the FANS kept saying it was BLOOD. Bazooka didn't say blood. the Fans did.

[edgarg]

I think this subject has been worn out for now.I've had enough...MORE than enough. The only "blocks" in this whole case are the blocks between the ears of 90% of the posters. Maybe 95%.