I want proof Margarito used plaster against Cotto.

[marzblkman]

If the stain on the wraps in Cotto/Mararito I fight allegedly came from the DYE of the boxing glove, wouldn't this DYE stain rear itself more than just a fixed corner location INSIDE of the glove??

Wouldn't the alleged DYE more than likely spread on the outside of the glove more importantly being that direct IMPACT is occurring more on the outside of the glove (due to the punches) as opposed to INDIRECT impact (clinching of the fist, sustaining the vibration of the impact of the punch) inside of the glove???

[shade darkar]

The proof is the beat down he's getting on Dec 3rd.

haha. there is no proof and you know it! (if you take your cotto plated peelers off that is!!!!!!)

and why is your rep power on PEDs?

[BoxingGenius27]

I wonder how that could be. It's a long established tradition that bandages are wrapped in the presence of a rep from the other fighter, and a Commission rep. I have never seen this report about Arum and Cotto etc. I don't know why all the fantasists both pro and con were not out in full force, loke the usual pack of foxhunting hounds. I'd like to see the official press report of that.

But regardless of this, the Commission guy was there, and also Margarito took off his gloves after the fight and was shaking lots of hands and giving interviews in full view (and feel) af loads of people. In the Resto case, for instance, Collins' father felt there was some padding missing from the glove when he shook Resto's gloved hand. It was later proven to have been a minimal amount, just one ounce, but could be plainly felt to be a little different. So how come that the "plaster" wraps (which must have made it hard for Margarito to move his fingers and hands normally) were not even noticed by the dozens of people who felt them, and were squeezed by them etc.etc.etc.

It's not my fault you don't know all the facts like you claim you do. Yes, Cotto and Arum both confirmed that no one from Team Cotto was present during Margarito's wrappings. That's not Margarito's fault, I'm just saying.

Secondly, your argument is why didn't anyone in the ring notice Margarito's wraps to be hard like in the Resto case. This is completely different than the Resto case. The only reason Collins father noticed Resto cheated, is because the padding in Resto's gloves were removed. It wasn't the plaster that caught Collins attention. It was the padding being removed that caught his attention. It wasn't until a few weeks after the fight, that they found Resto had plaster on his wraps also.

I'm trying to give you the benifit of the doubt and take your word that you do research before you post, but you're making it harder and harder man.

NOTE (your bold print above): The more and more I read your posts, the more you sound like an animal. Listen to what you're on record saying:

1. Luis Resto's gloves weren't that bad. They had a minimal amount of cotton removed.

2. Plaster of paris is harmless. Plaster will break before it breaks someone's bones/face.

3. Margarito's eye isn't that badly damaged. Due to today's technology, a fractured eye socket isn't that bad or career ending. In fact Margarito's eye is probably stronger than before.

4. Vitali's eye was just a mere paper cut. He wasn't cut that bad in the Lewis fight and could've continued.

[edgarg]

Why do you claim to only speak facts and not speculate when you're making statements like this?

Miguel Cotto and Bob Arum both say that no one from Miguel's corner saw Margarito wrap his hands.

Margarito's manager and coach say there was a Cotto rep present at the bandaging. And if you stop to think dispassionately about it. This seems much more likely. How could a major fight like this be allowed to have a vital part of the activity, unwitnessed? And I'm sure Arum is never present at these things, so he much be repeating what Cotto's guy said.

And, don't forget it's a vital part of the Commission's job to closely inspect each and every bandaging as it's being done.

[edgarg]

Judge: The sentence for murder is 25 years.
Defense Counsel: But your honor, my client only used a syringe to kill, not a hatchet.

I apologise, I don't understand your points, and I presume your post makes some. I'm a little old fashioned and not well up on the latest sign language.

[Easy-E]

That's what i thought....


If you have real evidence post it

Can you provide proof that Margarito didn't use plaster against Cotto?

That's what I thought.

What we know: Marg used illegal substances in his wraps against Mosley.
The Cotto fight was a bigger fight than the Mosley fight.

The question: Why would Marg not use illegal wraps in the biggest fight of his career and then use them in a less important fight where he was a heavy favorite?

[edgarg]

Why do you claim to only speak facts and not speculate when you're making statements like this?

Miguel Cotto and Bob Arum both say that no one from Miguel's corner saw Margarito wrap his hands.

The crap written about this particular matter baffles comprehension. I just now read a post about the faithful and accurate Dan Raphael, which said that Margarito was discovered with bandages coated in a plaster-like substance. When the whole world knows that there was NO plaster-like substance, and the fuss only happened because Sherlock Richardson was late to the dressing room to witness the bandaging and made them redo it. it was only they that it was discovered that the gauze pad was used and not new.

So Raphael makes up a story about plaster-like covered bandages...... This crap really has to stop somewhere otherwise truth and fact will vanish forever and the myth makers will triumph.

[edgarg]

Can you provide proof that Margarito didn't use plaster against Cotto?

That's what I thought.

What we know: Marg used illegal substances in his wraps against Mosley.
The Cotto fight was a bigger fight than the Mosley fight.

The question: Why would Marg not use illegal wraps in the biggest fight of his career and then use them in a less important fight where he was a heavy favorite?

I have a pimple on my backside...the question is..why should I not scratch it.....

[PRking718]

When Cotto sees the punches don't hurt so bad and Margarito does not have a chance. The mental advantage of knowing he had plaster is a point a lot of people forget - boxing is 75% MENTAL son, its a big excuse for a lot of Margarito's reasons for him losing to Mosley. Dudes are contradictory at BEST. Like supporting DLH when speaking of Trinidad but he is not a real Mexican when speaking of him quitting on his stool and dressing like a puta.

Margarito has looked like a bum since the Cotto fight for a reason. He lost every round to Pacman, just walking into punches all night, and so he took them...big deal. That is his only strength, he better keep the pressure on. All the jibber jabber about Cotto not hurting him was a lie as well, because normal boxing fans know they both left something in the ring.

Also, Capetillo was banned for life, meanwhile all they found were microscopic traces of kitchen items??? Please! He should be in Margs' corner right now! He has not announced any plans to re register nor will he; he is done and all you guys know it. Never seen any document or official apology from the commission to Capetillo and Margarito for being suspended and banned. This info is a rumor and came out of some Margarito supporters mouth.

****m said a block came out, period. It was hardened wraps guys get over it. Cheato is not a real warrior, and all I ask is when Cotto beats the **** out of him that you guys admit he cheated in the first fight - especially if the fight is one sided. Admit it, admit he is a chump for cheating and fooling you idiots into believing having heart is to die in front of your family. Same dudes talk smack about Trinidad, the same man who in all his losses never took a step back, AND could box better than Margarito could dream of. Contradiction at it's best. Come see me here on the 3rd guys, no excuses these men both been ****ted on by Pacman.

All you cornball dudes forget that Margarito already pleaded ignorance to the commission, saying he did not feel anything, not saying there was no plaster because they were shoving it in his face like, "you know this isn't a normal wrap papa." Capetillo took the blame for that **** and Margarito said he did not know about it, period.

Margs has no answer for any of these questions. Anyone who knows humans know he acts guilty and shameful too. Smiling all the time, hiding behind shades. Innocent people cannot tolerate being accused. Don't just laugh it off like some idiot posted earlier. It's basic human psychology, read a book guy.
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[BoxingGenius27]

The crap written about this particular matter baffles comprehension. I just now read a post about the faithful and accurate Dan Raphael, which said that Margarito was discovered with bandages coated in a plaster-like substance. When the whole world knows that there was NO plaster-like substance, and the fuss only happened because Sherlock Richardson was late to the dressing room to witness the bandaging and made them redo it. it was only they that it was discovered that the gauze pad was used and not new.

So Raphael makes up a story about plaster-like covered bandages...... This crap really has to stop somewhere otherwise truth and fact will vanish forever and the myth makers will triumph.

1. You've answered my 1 post, 3 consecutive times now. I do have other posts in this thread that are asking for your replies. haha I like messing with you Edgarg.

2. Dan Rafael isn't part of this conspiracy theory against Margarito that you and Bazooka seem to think is going on. You say "The whole world knows". Yes, the whole world knows that Marg is guilty, except for you and a few guys running around NSB.