Vitali Klitschko has lost fewer rds than ANY boxing champion in the history of boxing

[JAB5239]

You are absolutely out of your ******** mind to insinuhate that Frazier outboxes Vitali Klitschko. Smoking Joe would knock him out with the first left hook he threw before that would ever happen & we all Know THAT second statement i just made happens whe n hell freezes over. So just because Frazier out boxes the Great Ali.. he does it to Klitschko? Is this your argument? Or are you forgetting about styles making fights or the fact Ali ARGUABLY HAS BEEN outboxed in his career at least a half dozen times when Vitali has NEVER been close to being outboxed even when he was having his worst nightmare while in his sleep.. So Vitali doesn't hit as hard as Big George yet it's Vitali more likely to get me a KO... has a bigger reach.. better jab.. If SMOKIN jOE THOUGHT he had to lunge at Foreman WHAT would he have done against Vitali.. boobbed & weaved straight into his power.. that's what... look up Solis & see what happens when a fighter lunges trying to get at Vitali.

Solis was winning the round till he hurt his knee. In fact everyone knows he really won that fight except for the bullspit injury.

[Superflo777]

Solis was winning the round till he hurt his knee. In fact everyone knows he really won that fight except for the bullspit injury.

Solis was knocked down, he lost that round either 9-10 or 8-10. He didn't win anything.

[jimmy1569]

The guy asked if any champion in any division in the history of the sport had lost so few rounds ... and my point is there are champs NOW who have lost fewer rounds.

(And I never brought up Sergio Martinez. But Sergio Martinez didn't lose 12 or 14 rounds to Cintron, or however many rounds Vitali has lost.)

Whatever. It's a dumb topic. There are always dominant champs who rarely lose a round. When Vitali's career is over, that's when the question should be asked. Because, if you ask it now, there are other current champs who are just as dominant in their fights.

Vitali does have a lot of one-sided wins, then again, he's never even attempted to unify any of the belts (even when his brother didn't have a title). Saul Alvarez and Andre Ward could dominate forever if they were content to defend their one belt and never took on another champ.

Let's suppose that these lighter champs have ONLY lost 5% of the rds they;ve fought like Vitali has done (highly unlikely) but I did state 12 rds or fewer... what's there KO% like since you obviously are equating Vitali's dominance to there's.. That's the tiebreaker when you need to decipher overall domination.. so thx for easily dismissing Vitali's superiority based on other champs propensity to lose as many rds who probably have fought much lesser rds to begin with than Vitali but i'm not going to look it up because I know for a fact they have many more blemishes while winning rds.

[JAB5239]

Solis was knocked down, he lost that round either 9-10 or 8-10. He didn't win anything.

He wouldn't have gone down if he didn't hurt his knee therefore he should have been declared the winner but for the rules. Don't blame me, Im just using Klitard logic.

[jimmy1569]

Even the TS understands that.

Here's a rant he made on another nuthugging Vitali thread he made a while back

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=503090

THX for reminding me about this one... this is a classic thread ender that haters alike should read & post on there walls... the ultimate indictment & unbelieveable thing is that his scorecard ratio of 94-95% remains exactly on par with his 40 stoppages & his 5 non stoppages.. in other words what his opponent has to look forward to is EXACTLY the same in terms of being dominated whether he gets STOPPED or he doesn't & for all you smartA$$$es who think this doesn't include Lewis & Byrd.... HE WON only 80% of those rds partly due to those fights not being completed as otherwise the percentage would've been the same..... without further ado enjoy THE REFRESHER below.... thx gingeralbino!



Originally Posted by jimmy1569
& one MORE thing about the GREATEST knockout artist in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Knockouts to him are ANY form of a stoppage... as long as you DON'T survive the full 12.. he could care less how he attains it.. If THE REF stops it so be it... if the dr stops it so be it... if the fighter himself says no mas so be it... if the fighter's corner throws in the towel so be it... knockout;'s to Him IS YOU NOT LASTING 12... He'S BEEN ABLE TO get the treasured stoppages 88.64 % of the time...The 3 times a fighter has played defense & lasted all 12.... it's been a 36 rds to none SHUTOUT... THE TWO TIMES HE FAILED TO WIN A FIGHT.... he won 12 of 15 rds.. so IF YOU'RE not getting stopped by him EXPECT to win 3 rds out of 51 RDS FOUGHT.. Funny how that 94% scorecard ratio is EXACTLY the same against the 39 fighters he stopped & the 5 fighters he FAILED to halt.

As you can see Byrd.. Hoffman Lewis.. Johnson & Briggs all in chronological order all had what it takes to survive but ALL COLLECTIVELY suffered the same exact beatdown as those who failed to make the bell.. scorecard wise.. exactly the same beatdowns.

So like i said.. you choose how you go out against Vitali Klitschko but you'll be getting DOMINAted just the same when it comes time for the scorecards to be read. I just read them to you & it's always in Vitali's favor 94 to 95 % of the time regardless of the outcome of the bouts.. my bad as it was ONLY 80% of the time when he lost... afterall he's only human OTHERWise the most dominating fighter in boxing history would just be some aforementioned programmed 'robot' But we all Know that's not the case... right?

[gingeralbino]

THX for reminding me about this one... this is a classic thread ender that haters alike should read & post on there walls... the ultimate indictment & unbelieveable thing is that his scorecard ratio of 94-95% remains exactly on par with his 39 stoppages & his 5 non stoppages.. in other words what his opponent has to look for his EXACTLY the same in terms of being dominated whether he gets STOPPED or he doesn't & for all you smartA$$$es who think this doesn't include Lewis & Byrd.... HE WON 80% of those rds partly due to those fights not being completed as otherwise the percentage would've have been the same..... without further ado enjoy THE REFRESHER below.... thx gingeralbino!



Originally Posted by jimmy1569
& one MORE thing about the GREATEST knockout artist in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Knockouts to him are ANY form of a stoppage... as long as you DON'T survive the full 12.. he could care less how he attains it.. If THE REF stops it so be it... if the dr stops it so be it... if the fighter himself says no mas so be it... if the fighter's corner throws in the towel so be it... knockout;'s to Him IS YOU NOT LASTING 12... He'S BEEN ABLE TO get the treasured stoppages 88.64 % of the time...The 3 times a fighter has played defense & lasted all 12.... it's been a 36 rds to none SHUTOUT... THE TWO TIMES HE FAILED TO WIN A FIGHT.... he won 12 of 15 rds.. so IF YOU'RE not getting stopped by him EXPECT to win 3 rds out of 51 RDS FOUGHT.. Funny how that 94% scorecard ratio is EXACTLY the same against the 39 fighters he stopped & the 5 fighters he FAILED to halt.

As you can see Byrd.. Hoffman Lewis.. Johnson & Briggs all in chronological order all had what it takes to survive but ALL COLLECTIVELY suffered the same exact beatdown as those who failed to make the bell.. scorecard wise.. exactly the same beatdowns.

So like i said.. you choose how you go out against Vitali Klitschko but you'll be getting DOMINAted just the same when it comes time for the scorecards to be read. I just read them to you & it's always in Vitali's favor 94 to 95 % of the time regardless of the outcome of the bouts.. my bad as it was ONLY 80% of the time when he lost... afterall he's only human OTHERWise the most dominating fighter in boxing history would just be some aforementioned programmed 'robot' But we all Know that's not the case... right?

and according to your logic, Lewis and Byrd have legit KO wins over Vitali.

And Valero is the greatest/most dominant fighter to ever live

Thanks for clearing that up

[jimmy1569]

Actually most don't say that and I wasn't poking fun at anyone but Mr. Sensitive. You nuthuggers are overly paranoid.

STFU.. you were trying to equate how laughable Vitali's claim to a victory that night vs Lewis was & comparing the same right Foreman had to a W if he hadn't hit a homerun while being completely shutout otherwise.. don't try to be all cute without backpedaling.. i told you earlier you're out of my league & you're still backtalking.

[jimmy1569]

Who went the distance with Vitali? Timo Hoffman. Kevin Johnson. Shannon Briggs.

Who was the best fighter Vitali defeated? Tomasz Adamek? Sam Peter?

C'mon.

When Vitali beat Corrie Sanders for the WBC belt, the IBF champ was Chris Byrd (who had a win over Vitali). The WBO champ was Lamon Brewster, who destroyed Wlad. Seven-footer Nicolay Valuev was a top, undefeated contender.

Who did Vitali fight? Danny Williams.

This guy hasn't exactly been knocking off the cream of the crop.

He whacked Danny Williams for destroying his chance to whack ANY version of Iron Mike & have an alltime great w on his resume so he could quite the naysayers as Mike Tyson was the ONLY alltime great left available at the time except for Holy & LL didn't want a rematch.. so he took it out on Williams... he could care less about Byrd who he handily outboxed & let's face it Big Byrd was talking big but carrying the most miniscule of sticks.. Vitali let Wlad dispose of him.. he was going to fight Rahman before injuries forced his retirement & unification bouts at that time couldn't be made because King WASN'T gOING TO FEED his only beltholder to ANY KLitschko.

[Dubblechin]

He whacked Danny Williams for destroying his chance to whack ANY version of Iron Mike & have an alltime great w on his resume so he could quite the naysayers as Mike Tyson was the ONLY alltime great left available at the time except for Holy & LL didn't want a rematch.. so he took it out on Williams... he could care less about Byrd who he handily outboxed & let's face it Big Byrd was talking big but carrying the most miniscule of sticks.. Vitali let Wlad dispose of him.. he was going to fight Rahman before injuries forced his retirement & unification bouts at that time couldn't be made because King WASN'T gOING TO FEED his only beltholder to ANY KLitschko.

He took it out on Williams?

And Don King had ALL the beltholders at the time except the WBC title. Don King has spent the past decade trying to promote a Klitschko fight.

Vitali could've signed to unify against Byrd (who had already beaten Vitali) or Brewster (who beat Wlad for the belt) ... or he could've fought the undefeated Russian Valuev, who was packing them in back home in Germany.

If Vitali wanted to "take it out" on someone (because Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis were out of the picture) why didn't he "take it out" on Byrd (who not only beat Holyfield for the IBF strap but had a win over Vitali)? Why Danny Williams? How in the hell did Wlad manage to fight Byrd twice after Vitali lost to him, but Vitali never seemed to have time to fight Byrd himself?

Didn't avenging a loss and unifying two of the four belts make more sense than an easy defense against Danny Williams (who was barely in the top 10)?

Vital has NEVER gone out of his way to unify anything. Even when prime matchups were there. Even when he came back, he could've fought the 50-1 Valuev for the WBA belt in a monster showdown in Germany. Instead, he went after Peter (who Wlad had already beaten, and Jameel McCline had floored and knocked all around the ring) because Peter was the worst beltholder at the time.

Vitali's entire rep is based on a loss to Lewis. Because his quality of opposition in his wins has been awful.

Once again, who was the best fighter he ever beat? The former light heavy/cruiserweight Adamek?

I think it was. Chad Dawson has beaten better opposition than Vitali.

[jimmy1569]

Not Chris Byrd, thats for sure. Didn't rematch him even though he lost to a former super middleweight who made him miss all night long, was never in trouble, had him sucking wind by the 6th, landed only 8 less punches the entire fight in spite of giving up huge height and reach advantages. Didn't rematch him even though he announced how sorry he was and that he promised to get his belt back. I guess in your mind its ok for him to change his mind, but it's not for Lewis even though he won.

His brother got his belt back while he was healing from shoulder surgery (next best thing as to them belts are evenly distributed esp. when Wlad has more.... Vitali knows he's just loaning them to Wlad).. 8 less punches ONLY because half the time Vitali was throwing them he was NOT afforded the luxury of putting full force behind his shots & that led to a few more misses despite Byrd's brilliant defense & most of the shots Byrd landed were towards the end when Vitali was becoming defenseless due to the severe pain in his shoulder so i wouldn't put too much stock into Vitali's poor percentage that night & the fact that we are EQUATING bYRD shots to Klitschko's shots as one & the same is laughable at best when Byrd's landed shots are featherfisters & aren't equivalent or anywhere near Vitali's hammerlike shots.


Look up Kevin Johnson to see what REALLY happens to Byrd when Vitali is healthy & aware & cautious about throwing off his shoulder.. Byrd was just as frightened as Kj .. HAD just been Ko'ed bY iKE who was inferior to Vitali in every way... only got brave after Vitali misses & would put together a few featherfisted combos to make it look like he's fighting back instead of cowering on the ropes hoping to make Vitali miss.. he became the aggressor in the last rd or so when he was ASSURED Vitali wasn't going to hurt him because there was something physically wrong with him........... The truth.. read all about it!