Question? If Floyd had problems with Zab Judah, why not Pac

[CHOWWOKKA]

who ever says this fight wont be close is an idiot. its floyds hardest fight on paper. his gonna have to fight his ass off to win against the beast pac-man

You lost last night jabroni...

[Boxingtech718v2]

Running to survive, not boxing, Cotto after the 4th and Mosley after the 3rd were not in a contest anymore, they just tried to survive.

Cotto did try a few time to fight back but when he did Pacquiao wailed on him and took the fight out of him again.

And compubox stats check out for me.

LOL at people using compubox to argue!

[jrosales13]

Likewise with Pac. I dont see how anyone can see that much skill in him. He has the worst balance in the history of the sport. Ive never seen a fighter off his feet so much. Look at all the gifs here of Manny, all of them have him throwing punches on 1 foot and getting punched and standing on one foot. Technically, thats ****** and I could never see Zab doing something so dumb.

Yes because pulling straight back with your hands down is technically brilliant skilled move.

Thank you for your unbiased and astute post sir.

[jrosales13]

I think it's most fans who like flashy hand speed and combinations just see the wasted potential, he is as talented as SRL but unfortunately had the mentality of Mike Tyson.

And Prime Judah 140-135 is a Nightmare for Pac, he would be just as fast if not faster and more powerful(my opinion-hurts alot of people early) and when he's at his best he is better than Pac IMO, but i will concede i always support the boxer!

Clear Cut? Ok

boxing= hit and don't get hit

Show me one Video of Pacquiao sliping to the side and landing a counter left straight or uppercut! You won't be able to because he can't do it! He has to go forward! That's not a skillful fighter

You don't have an understanding of what skill is...Whether Judah is faster or more powerful it's irrelevant to what skill is. That goes under the talent category...Talent is something you're born with. Skill is something you learn.

I don't understand why you talking about hit and don't get hit. We talking about Judah here...The man gets tag a lot....He gets hit a lot...He is not a hit and don't get hit fighter...What Judah are you even discussing here?

Just because a fighter goes forward doesn't mean they're not skilled. Again some don't truly understand what a skill fighter is. You can be a skilled pressure fighter. a highly skilled pressure fighter...Now whether Pac is a highly skilled pressure is irrelevant to comparing his skills to Judah.

And, for your video, Pac did mix offense with defense in his KO of Hatton. Now there you have what you asking for...However, that doesn't prove at all whether he is or is not more skilled than Judah.

I saw both fighters fight, and IMO again IMO Pac is more skilled. But, then again I never got the big hoopla about Judah. He was athletic very much so, had amazing athleticism, was a very flashy guy, had talent, speed, reflex, and power. But, skill wise I didn't see it. And, I don't see how anyone could call the man slick...That's like calling Paulie slick cuz' he fights in a certain style...Just because you move and fight off your back foot doesn't make you slick. He got hi way too much to be called a slick fighter.

[Canelo Phresh]

pac has 4 rounds to ko floyd at best and he wont. mayweather may actually tko pac later in the fight. he showed absolutely 0 resilliance against 38 year old marquez at welterweight. hes not beating floyd.

[Real Floyd]

KFC never figured out castillo

castillo didnt perform in 2nd fight and it was still damn close

KFC fought better than DLH but cross dresser out worked him

pac is floyd's worst nightmare- he wants the media to beat manny for him

floyd is s-hit scared of losing-

This is laughable. First of all styles make fights Judah has an in and out style that gives Floyd a little trouble. With that in mind he still dominated and would have stopped Judah had he not been nailed in the balls and then on the back of the head. Pacman does great when someone comes right to him, Margarito, Hatton Etc. He does not so good with counter punchers. Floyd is a far superior counter puncher to Marquez and Marquez was landing a lot of clean shots. Floyd is also bigger, faster, more versatile, and has is far superior defensively. DLH, Marquez, Martinez, and even Pacmans old trainer say the same thing Floyd beats Manny. peace out

[FeFist]

Judah gave Floyd problems because he boxed with him, set traps, timed him on a few occasions. Things Pacquiao can not do.

Aside from being a southpaw and having quick hands they do not fight alike.

Judah didn't even give Mayweather problems, he was competitive for 4 rounds then got dominated.

Seems I was wrong. Pacquiao was capable of setting traps and timing Mayweather on a few occasions. Like Judah though, it was not enough to win.

[Johnwoo8686]

Seems I was wrong. Pacquiao was capable of setting traps and timing Mayweather on a few occasions. Like Judah though, it was not enough to win.

Pacquiao has had the ability to time guys and set traps for quite a while. The only issue is he's not that good at it. Well, not as good as guys like Mayweather, Marquez, Rigondeaux, or even Zab Judah. And he doesn't set traps consistently enough. He tried setting traps in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Marquez fights but when they weren't working or Marquez began to adjust Manny would easily become frustrated and begin walking into shots.

Although he didn't get reckless in his fight with Floyd, and boxed well at times, you could see he wasn't consistent when it came to timing Floyd. It took him four rounds to adjust to Floyd's jab and even after hurting Floyd he still got hit with the left jab repeatedly.

[Boxfan83]

Reach sums it all up.

[Heavyfist]

2 reasons.

1) Pac is old and past it.

2) Floyd fought completely different to Pac than all his other opponents. He didn't go into a defensive shoulder roll for the first few rounds, instead, he smartly adjusted his game plan. I've never seen Floyd use his shoulder roll position so little in any fight.

Gotta give Floyd credit for that.